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  • Eggbert43
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    • Jul 2014
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    #61
    Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

    How about a resistor or something?

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    • Diah
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      • Feb 2013
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      #62
      Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

      Originally posted by Eggbert43
      I'm struggling to grasp where the wires come from?
      which wire ? the photo i added to you.. its any table lamp with filament bulb will have only 2 wire only which take AC from wall socket... this 2 wire one you connected with the wirw which you need to slide it out from the BL socket and the next of the bulb go to the socket at pin3

      sockets on power boards PIn3 -------- table lamp ------- the wire go to backlight

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      • Diah
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        #63
        Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

        resistor need high watt ,1K 10 watt and up, bulb are better. as it can handle all kind of currents / watt with out any effect on the other parts in circuit

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        • Eggbert43
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          #64
          Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

          I have just found a table lamp; see photo.

          However, I am still unsure where the wires you speak of are going to come from?
          Attached Files

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          • Eggbert43
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            #65
            Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

            Do you mean for me to cut the end of the power cable that plugs into the wall off & use those wires?

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            • Diah
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              #66
              Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

              Originally posted by Eggbert43
              Do you mean for me to cut the end of the power cable that plugs into the wall off & use those wires?
              yes

              after u cut test it in wall to be sure it work and its switch are on on.. then put it in tv as told.

              you can open the switch and take out the wire from there.... no need to cut
              Last edited by Diah; 04-24-2021, 11:59 AM.

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              • Eggbert43
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                #67
                Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

                Yey I got there in the end...!

                So, I will do as suggested, making sure that the lamp is switched on before switching on the TV....

                Are we hoping for the screen to stay on & the bulb to light up?

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                • Diah
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                  #68
                  Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

                  its your hope too,
                  the bulb will never light on... it will be as resistor only
                  Last edited by Diah; 04-24-2021, 12:02 PM.

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                  • Eggbert43
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                    #69
                    Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

                    No joy, it didn't help....

                    So, in terms of taking the TV apart more, do you have any tricks to bypass the bad LED once it has been identified & we are looking at it?

                    Are we sure that this problem can't be caused by a bad capacitor on the Power Board or something?

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                    • Diah
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                      #70
                      Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

                      Originally posted by Eggbert43
                      No joy, it didn't help....

                      So, in terms of taking the TV apart more, do you have any tricks to bypass the bad LED once it has been identified & we are looking at it?

                      Are we sure that this problem can't be caused by a bad capacitor on the Power Board or something?
                      explain any different you noticed when you did the bulb try?

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                      • Diah
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                        #71
                        Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

                        i am afraid you have error at volts reading.. to confirm i want you do the bulb test to the other lines one by one and notice any change.. pin 2 / 6 / 7

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                        • Eggbert43
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                          #72
                          Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

                          What should I notice?

                          All I noticed is that the splash screen wasn't even coming on, instead the screen just flashed light....

                          It was possible that the wire I was putting down the Pin 3 socket wasn't touching the Pin on the Board properly, so I even tried holding it onto the pin externally to the socket also.... I took my time with those measurements this time, triple checked the readings very carefully etc

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                          • Eggbert43
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                            #73
                            Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

                            Does bulb size matter at all?
                            It is a slightly smaller than standard household bulb....

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                            • Diah
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                              #74
                              Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

                              Originally posted by Eggbert43
                              What should I notice?

                              All I noticed is that the splash screen wasn't even coming on, instead the screen just flashed light....

                              It was possible that the wire I was putting down the Pin 3 socket wasn't touching the Pin on the Board properly, so I even tried holding it onto the pin externally to the socket also.... I took my time with those measurements this time, triple checked the readings very carefully etc
                              if you did all correct and splash screen wasn't coming on, mean this line healthy.. so do the test to others 2 6 7

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                              • Eggbert43
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                                #75
                                Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

                                Ok, will do, thanks Diah

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                                • budm
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                                  #76
                                  Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

                                  Originally posted by Eggbert43
                                  Does bulb size matter at all?
                                  It is a slightly smaller than standard household bulb....
                                  What is the resistance of that incandescent lamp? Cold resistance of incandescent lamp will be really low Ohm (resistance will go up when lamp filament is heated up) which will overload the LED power supply.
                                  Last edited by budm; 04-24-2021, 03:30 PM.
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                                  • Eggbert43
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                                    #77
                                    Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

                                    The bulb is 40 Watt (240/250V); hope that helps?

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                                    • budm
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                                      #78
                                      Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

                                      Originally posted by Eggbert43
                                      The bulb is 40 Watt (240/250V); hope that helps?
                                      Check the resistance of the lamp with your Ohm meter.
                                      40W 240VAC = hot resistance of about 1430 Ohms, so cold resistance will be about 143 Ohms or less.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • Eggbert43
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                                        #79
                                        Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

                                        I measured 181.8 Ohms

                                        So are you suggesting this is too low to achieve the objective?
                                        I could leave the bulb switched on somewhere for a while, then quickly transfer it to the lamp & test while still warm heheh.... I guess you don't mean that kind of hot; as in hot = plugged into AC Mains, & cold = not?

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                                        • Diah
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                                          #80
                                          Re: Soniq E40S12A-AU Stuck In Standby

                                          bulb test method applied to LED back light which controlled with external inverter which it had 24V feed from power boards and it had nothings to do with heat. and will never overload or damage any parts at inverter neither power boards.

                                          the questions if you test this on all lines 2/3/6/7 and didn't help the LED remain on. then you have shorted / exploded / cutoff LED Line. no way unless take the screen apart. end of subject from my side.
                                          Last edited by Diah; 04-25-2021, 04:20 AM.

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