Another KDL-40W600B

[brucetv]

Re: Another KDL-40W600B

FYI- I have tested many led strips that all the led's will light up but if there is one weak one in the chain it will still trip a backlight error or emit a quick flash once its hooked back up to the power supply or led driver. Once I get the new led kit in the Tv it works fine. So even if they all light up don't be fooled, just replace all the strips or bars. You'll be glad you did.

[Davi.p]

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Seems that the shim pins of plastic are not been reseated, so the foils falls onto leds..

[steves7839]

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Now that I've started using the TV, it's apparent the LED's are visible through the picture. I have reduced brightness, white and black levels, contrast, etc to zero without getting rid of the bright spots. I also reset display settings to factory levels. They are dimmer behind darker pictures and stand out clearly behind white.
I did remove all LED strips for testing during the troubleshooting process, and all tested good with a strip tester. I believe I marked all diffuser sheets for correct reinstallation.
Are the brights consistent with a diffuser in the wrong order? Have I overlooked any settings that could cause this?

The photo is the set showing my PC screen thru an HDMI cable. All inputs display the bright spots though.

[Davi.p]

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i repeat: The only board to check before board swapping is the PSU.
Therefore you start by swappng mainboards, then PSU.. no risks

[steves7839]

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"105$ on a 40" is too much since you already bought a baxl.."

I would agree. I chose to shotgun the entire board set to get a fresh start. The set came with everything inside the chassis including the LED strips and base I wanted. What turns out to be unused I can recoup by reselling.

My question for today is: now that I have a working chassis, do I take a significant risk of damaging the working boards by testing the suspect PS, BAXL, or tuner boards by substitution in the working chassis? (One at a time and using antistatic protection, of course.)

[Davi.p]

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The only board to check before board swapping is the PSU.
But you does not give enough trust to the forum members...
I'm sad sometimes to read of DIY techs that buys boards with no logic..
105$ on a 40" is too much since you already bought a baxl..
that could subtract a chance to other users that needs by force a substitute board..
I think that following logic of the posts you still have a bad intermittent led problem, so it's a matter of time and your tv will shut down again..
better spend money on new led bars..
when you test leds, without anything on top of leds chassis, put a heavy blanket on it and do some hours of testing, input an antenna signal so tv won't power save shut down, if you see BL die again maybe you find the bad led..

[steves7839]

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I put this TV on a long hiatus so I could focus on other hobbies like nail gun repair and carpentry.

To address the unknown quality of the TV's symptom I recently bought a used kit consisting of every board, harness and LED strip, even a stand. $105! Replacing the PS, Main and Tuner boards with those from the set immediately brought the TV to life.
After a few days to let it update, burn-in and function correctly I will consider the risk of testing the original and purchased boards I already have, one by one.

I worry that a failure on a bad board, when installed into the working set, might destroy one of its good neighbors. Has this ever occurred while swap-testing Sony TV boards?

[Davi.p]

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Never heard a recent TV repaired with contact cleaner..


You can try to use the tv at limit until leds no more lit up so you will have a steady short and can locate well the faulty led.

[nomoresonys]

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Success! All LED strips worked separately under test. I sprayed all connections with contact cleaner and powered up the TV. Backlights and green status LED come on and stay on.
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Ok, my bad, I thought you fixed it.

[steves7839]

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Don't sing victory, the fault will come back, there is an intermittent faulty led i guess.

Umm, how did you know? Yesterday all LEDs lit and stayed on almost 20 minutes until a power save shutdown.

Today, after careful reassembly of the panel I'm back to green/amber blinks ...."panel id mismatch". And no display-1 second to black.

[nomoresonys]

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Ok then davi p, guess there's JUST no way it was a bad/dirty connection.

[Davi.p]

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Don't sing victory, the fault will come back, there is an intermittent faulty led i guess.

[nomoresonys]

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Good to hear, another save.

[steves7839]

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Success! All LED strips worked separately under test. I sprayed all connections with contact cleaner and powered up the TV. Backlights and green status LED come on and stay on.
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[nomoresonys]

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Green amber flash usually means update needed, you might be going about it wrong, try this: make sure no other devices are plugged into any usb on tv-turn tv on plug thumb drive in with update on it then just watch and see what it does, it may prompt for action it may not if it takes over an hour there's something wrong have to stop, no joy that way then try having tv off-put thumb drive in and hit power button on tv and see what it does, try it with the board that is blinking green and amber if it don't work it could be an error in preparing the thumb drive or incompatible thumb drive possibly.

[steves7839]

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There has been no 6-blink code (panel fault) after I forced the set into updating.

Turns out the forced update was the wrong road to take. The set shows the familiar red and green LED, meaning "Error of panel id" from the common chassis service manual.

Ignoring that, I went into service mode and actually got the service screen....for about two seconds, then black screen and the six-blink red code. This is a solid, repeatable fault. So the panel does have an issue, probably an LED strip. Ordering an LED tester online.

[Davi.p]

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The right step that can be made is a copy or swap of the settings eprom from original baxl to the new one, in alternative another baxl change, that board is not exactly for your model (different panel)

[steves7839]

Re: Another KDL-40W600B

Time to rename this thread "Annoying KDL-40W600B".

I bought a tested BAXL board off electroparts. (See post #8 in this thread) Installed, the TV only showed a menu once, for a second. The forced firmware update with USB took forever and the USB drive showed no data access. Its' LED never blinked.

I've chatted with Sony tech support. They walked me through a power reset and concluded the TV had hardware issues.

Electroparts sent me an exchange board. As soon as power is connected, the TV standby light blinks continuous green and amber. Other than that, no response to remote, pushbuttons or ^I/O reset. Per one of the chassis manuals, this blink means "panel ID error".

I understand I should go into Service Mode with (Disp)(5)(Vol+)(I/O) to enter the correct model and serial numbers. But with the first main board, there was no picture in response to this key sequence so I got nowhere.

Solution suggestions?

[steves7839]

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"There has been no 6-blink code (panel fault)" Correction; 6 blinks =Backlight fault.

[steves7839]

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What says about 6 blinks? Is it backlight problem? If the update doesn't finish maybe the new main board is not the right replacement.

The backlight is coming on to illuminate the update icon.
There has been no 6-blink code (panel fault) after I forced the set into updating. It just never finished. I'm going to try again tomorrow with a different USB drive.