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  • hardbox
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    • Sep 2013
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    Vizio E70U-D3 - No Backlight

    Vizio E70U-D3 - No Backlight

    Customer brought in for has sound, no picture or backlights. Replaced the backlights with set from SJ and the backlights still doesn't turn on. Made sure everything was connected and they are working. Pins 1-5 at CN201 on PS which are the LED_OUTPUTS are reading 0 volts, however am getting the 16 V to main and can see image with flashlight. Also not getting any voltage from main to LED's at CN403. What could cause this?

    https://www.shopjimmy.com/vizio-y838...or-e70u-d3.htm

    https://www.shopjimmy.com/vizio-09-7...-led-board.htm

    Power Supply / LED Board: 09-70CAR090-00

    Mainboard: Y8387136S
  • nomoresonys
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    • Jan 2013
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    #2
    Re: Vizio E70U-D3 - No Backlight

    Do test #3 below.

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    • hardbox
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      #3
      Re: Vizio E70U-D3 - No Backlight

      CN201 - Same voltages when off and on for all pins. Indicator light on front of TV changes when I press power. Dark image in background visible with flashlight.

      1. VSNS - 0 V
      2. LED_OUT - 0V
      3. LED_OUT - 0V
      4. LED_OUT - 0V
      5. LED_OUT - 0V
      6. GND
      7. GND
      8. GND
      9. GND
      10. GND
      11. 16VS - 16V
      12. AC-DET - 3.8 V
      13. PS-ON - 4.9 V
      14. 16VS - 16V
      15. 16VS - 16V
      Last edited by hardbox; 12-16-2019, 01:45 PM.

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      • nomoresonys
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        #4
        Re: Vizio E70U-D3 - No Backlight

        Check voltage of C1 and C2, put meter on 200 vdc or next one up, positive probe on positive + leg, negative probe on negative - leg, check with power off and with power on, careful not to touch anything with your hands, this is the HOT/DEADLY side of powerboard.

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        • hardbox
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          #5
          Re: Vizio E70U-D3 - No Backlight

          C1 and C2 both show 167.6 V when on. Then both show 165.4 V when OFF.

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          • nomoresonys
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            #6
            Re: Vizio E70U-D3 - No Backlight

            .
            Last edited by nomoresonys; 12-16-2019, 02:00 PM.

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            • nomoresonys
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              #7
              Re: Vizio E70U-D3 - No Backlight

              Looks like your not getting your boosted pfc voltage when tv is on, think it should be around 400 volts when on.

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              • hardbox
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                • Sep 2013
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                #8
                Re: Vizio E70U-D3 - No Backlight

                Hmm. Getting 0 Volts DC on each side of TCON fuse (F100). *edit* Nevermind, my red probe wasn't placed well. Am getting 12 V both sides.
                Last edited by hardbox; 12-16-2019, 01:59 PM.

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                • hardbox
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                  #9
                  Re: Vizio E70U-D3 - No Backlight

                  So the problem is located on the Power Supply most likely for lack of PFC voltage?

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                  • nomoresonys
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                    • Jan 2013
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                    #10
                    Re: Vizio E70U-D3 - No Backlight

                    Seems like it, did you check all the diodes on powerboard?

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                    • hardbox
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                      #11
                      Re: Vizio E70U-D3 - No Backlight

                      D103 and D107 are reading short, will test out of circuit

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                      • hardbox
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                        #12
                        Re: Vizio E70U-D3 - No Backlight

                        oh, D107 tests good out of circuit, D103 reads short.

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                        • nomoresonys
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                          Re: Vizio E70U-D3 - No Backlight

                          Ok, that may be the only problem.

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                          • budm
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                            #14
                            Re: Vizio E70U-D3 - No Backlight

                            PFC Diode D103 and D107 are connected in parallel, so you found the cause of not having PFC boosted Voltage.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • hardbox
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                              #15
                              Re: Vizio E70U-D3 - No Backlight

                              Replaced D103 SF50JG (600V 5A) with MUR460 (600 V 4 A rectifier). This fixed the problem. Thank you!

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                              • nomoresonys
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                                #16
                                Re: Vizio E70U-D3 - No Backlight

                                Glad to hear it.

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                                • budm
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                                  • Feb 2010
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Vizio E70U-D3 - No Backlight

                                  Did you replace both of them? They are connected in parallel so both of them should be the same so to match Vf as close as possible.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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