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  • Bloopeta
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    • Jun 2018
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    #21
    Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

    Originally posted by dick_barton
    If you disconnect the power supply from the main board and jumper A5V to PWR ON/OFF using a 1K resistor and switch on, does the B5V and B13 supplies come on.
    1k resistors came this morning, no difference to B5V and B13V when jumper A5 to pwr on/off, exact same result with or without resistor.

    Does it matter which way round resistor goes?
    Last edited by Bloopeta; 10-16-2019, 06:19 AM.

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    • nomoresonys
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      • Jan 2013
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      #22
      Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

      With power cord unplugged, unplug cable from powerboard to mainboard, plug power cord back into powerboard, backlights should come on and stay on=powerboard selftest if backlights don't come on the problem is in powerboard or backlights which need to be fixed first before messing with mainboard which may be ok or not.
      Last edited by nomoresonys; 10-16-2019, 06:47 AM.

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      • Bloopeta
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        #23
        Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

        Originally posted by nomoresonys
        With power cord unplugged, unplug cable from powerboard to mainboard, plug power cord back into powerboard, backlights should come on and stay on=powerboard selftest if backlights don't come on the problem is in powerboard or backlights which need to be fixed first before messing with mainboard which may be ok or not.

        Hi, Ive already unplugged main board and the backlights dont stay on, still just clicks and comes on for a second, then immediately off again, and repeats over and over.

        Even if nothing at all is plugged into the powerboard, except the mains power cable, it still clicks repeatedly.

        Would the whole powerboard need replaced, or just some capacitors etc?
        I have read that around the time this TV was produced Samsung were known for fitting undervalued capacitors??

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        • nomoresonys
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          #24
          Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

          Check all the diodes, could try heating the powerboard a small section at a time with a hairdryer, go over the whole board and those brown caps the little blue ones too, see if the tv tries to turn on or anything changes.

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          • Bloopeta
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            #25
            Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

            Originally posted by nomoresonys
            Check all the diodes, could try heating the powerboard a small section at a time with a hairdryer, go over the whole board and those brown caps the little blue ones too, see if the tv tries to turn on or anything changes.

            Tested Diodes, all seem fine.

            Whilst on diode mode, I touched all the resistors, all beeped, except one, not sure if that means anything? Lol
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            • Bloopeta
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              #26
              Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

              Originally posted by nomoresonys
              Check all the diodes, could try heating the powerboard a small section at a time with a hairdryer, go over the whole board and those brown caps the little blue ones too, see if the tv tries to turn on or anything changes.

              Just tried what u said n gently warmed the power board with a heatgun, after a minute or two the TV has come on as normal!!

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              • budm
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                • Feb 2010
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                #27
                Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                PS-ON signal.
                So PS-ON is stable? I still think that for the PS-ON to be going and down, the A5V has to be going up and down also because the PS-ON pull-up resistor is connected directly to the A5V as shown in the picture.
                Attached Files
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • nomoresonys
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                  #28
                  Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                  Hmm, now maybe try narrow down the area heated to when it comes on, thinking its a bad cap, maybe heat the electro caps small section at a time see if it comes on then the blue ceramic. Could test the caps it's hard to know the esr tho without an esr meter.
                  Last edited by nomoresonys; 10-16-2019, 02:26 PM.

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                  • budm
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                    • Feb 2010
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                    #29
                    Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                    I would try just heating up the standby power supply section and see especially around those two lytics caps, https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...3&d=1571254351
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • nomoresonys
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                      • Jan 2013
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                      #30
                      Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                      Is that the right picture Bud it's a resistor circled?

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
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                        #31
                        Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                        Originally posted by nomoresonys
                        Is that the right picture Bud it's a resistor circled?
                        This OP picture? https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...3&d=1571254351
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • nomoresonys
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 12090
                          • U.S.

                          #32
                          Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                          Ok, I see, you mean he should start in that area.

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                          • Bloopeta
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                            • Jun 2018
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                            #33
                            Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                            Originally posted by nomoresonys
                            Hmm, now maybe try narrow down the area heated to when it comes on, thinking its a bad cap, maybe heat the electro caps small section at a time see if it comes on then the blue ceramic. Could test the caps it's hard to know the esr tho without an esr meter.
                            I only have a multimeter, and dont know how to test caps with that?

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                            • Bloopeta
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Jun 2018
                              • 526
                              • United Kingdom

                              #34
                              Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                              Originally posted by budm
                              I would try just heating up the standby power supply section and see especially around those two lytics caps, https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...3&d=1571254351
                              I will try in the morning, as its almost 11pm in UK

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                              • budm
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                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #35
                                Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                                Originally posted by nomoresonys
                                Ok, I see, you mean he should start in that area.
                                That resistor is 82K Ohms, it is for the RC snubber network for that standby power supply section, I just do not understand why people will use diode mode to test resistor.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • Bloopeta
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Jun 2018
                                  • 526
                                  • United Kingdom

                                  #36
                                  Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                                  Originally posted by budm
                                  That resistor is 82K Ohms, it is for the RC snubber network for that standby power supply section, I just do not understand why people will use diode mode to test resistor.
                                  Wasnt testing them as such, but as I was there testing the diodes, I thought id see what happened if I tried on the resistors

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                                  • Bloopeta
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                                    • Jun 2018
                                    • 526
                                    • United Kingdom

                                    #37
                                    Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                                    It would appear, that heating this section is what allows it to start
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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #38
                                      Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                                      The LED driver/power supply section. If you disconnect the LED connector, will it be in boot loop?
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                      Comment

                                      • Bloopeta
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Jun 2018
                                        • 526
                                        • United Kingdom

                                        #39
                                        Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                                        Originally posted by budm
                                        The LED driver/power supply section. If you disconnect the LED connector, will it be in boot loop?
                                        Yes, still loops with LED feed plug disconnected

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                                        • budm
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Feb 2010
                                          • 40746
                                          • USA

                                          #40
                                          Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                                          Can I see good clear hi-res of the whole bottom side of your power supply board?
                                          Never stop learning
                                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                          Comment

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