Sony KDL-46EX640 won't turn on, 5 blinks on standby light.

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  • kevinm34232
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    • May 2012
    • 1884
    • USA

    #1

    Sony KDL-46EX640 won't turn on, 5 blinks on standby light.

    Hopefully someone is familiar with this model/series. I couldn't find a SM or much online, except that 5 blinks seems to be T-Con error. I checked T-Con fuse and surrounding diodes and they are good. I disconnected the LVDS cables, same. Next I disconnected ribbons to the panel, same.

    I disconnected main board, and forced POWER ON, and BL-ON, and backlights come up and all voltages normal. When I force T-Con ON I get 12V on the T-Con-VCC-12V. So power supply seems fine.

    With main board hooked up, I'll get a short voltage at POWER ON when hitting the power button. But never any voltage at T-Con ON.

    Also, I get 3.3V at BL-ERR, is that supposed to be high when working? Backlights do come on steady when forced on..

    So I'm not sure if there is actually some problem on the T-Con, or there is a main board issue...

    Any ideas? Thanks!
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    Last edited by kevinm34232; 05-15-2018, 07:56 PM.
  • Andrew F. Ali
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    • Jan 2014
    • 2450
    • Trinidad & Tobago

    #2
    Re: Sony KDL-46EX640 won't turn on, 5 blinks on standby light.

    There would be two flat cables coming off the Main Bd. to the T-CON Bd. Unplug them, carefully, from the T-CON Bd. and try a turn ON. If voltages come up and are steady then the Main Bd. might be OK. I have attached the SM for you. I repaired two of these recently. One was a PSU issue and the other was a double image, I fixed on the T-CON Bd.
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    • kevinm34232
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      • May 2012
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      #3
      Re: Sony KDL-46EX640 won't turn on, 5 blinks on standby light.

      I tried unplugging the cables to the T-Con board with no change, but I assumed it's looking for a signal from the T-Con and if it doesn't get it, it won't send T-Con ON?

      I downloaded the firmware file I was gonna try that when I get back to it..

      Do we know what it's checking on T-Con board to give the T-Con ON signal?
      Last edited by kevinm34232; 05-16-2018, 08:22 AM.

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      • Andrew F. Ali
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        • Jan 2014
        • 2450
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        #4
        Re: Sony KDL-46EX640 won't turn on, 5 blinks on standby light.

        The T-CON ON signal comes from The Main Bd. and tells the PSU to supply 12V to the T-CON Bd. I wanted to verify the Main Bd. was OK. 5 blinks is T-CON Bd problem. So then if the Main Bd. produces the T-CON ON signal and the PSU produces the 12V to supply the T-CON but when it reaches the T-CON Bd. a problem on the T-CON shuts down the PSU. OR the Main Bd. is not sending the T-CON ON signal to the PSU and so the T-CON never gets powered and so the system says T-CON Bd. problem. BTW I was getting 7 blinks which pointed to a Main Bd. problem but when I tested the PSU it was bad and so got anew PSU and the TV came on and work perfectly. So sometimes the blink codes do mislead us.

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        • budm
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          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Sony KDL-46EX640 won't turn on, 5 blinks on standby light.

          What is the LCD panel model number? I can see the white sticker on the panel but the picture is not clear enough to read the numbers.
          BTW, what happen if you disconnect those two cables between the LCD panel and the T-CON board?
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • Andrew F. Ali
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            • Jan 2014
            • 2450
            • Trinidad & Tobago

            #6
            Re: Sony KDL-46EX640 won't turn on, 5 blinks on standby light.

            Also what is the T-CON Bd Part No. on the white sticker at the bottom of the board?

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            • kevinm34232
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              • May 2012
              • 1884
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Sony KDL-46EX640 won't turn on, 5 blinks on standby light.

              I will have to get the part #s when I get back home.

              As far as the T-Con ON signal, the main board is not sending it. I can hit the power button while Im getting the 5 blinks code, and Power ON will go to 3.3V for a second, but nothing on the T-Con ON.

              However if I apply 3.3V to T-Con ON, I do get the T-Con 12V so power supply is good.

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              • kevinm34232
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                • May 2012
                • 1884
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Sony KDL-46EX640 won't turn on, 5 blinks on standby light.

                I'm 99% sure I tried that first and there was no change but I will confirm again.

                Originally posted by budm
                What is the LCD panel model number? I can see the white sticker on the panel but the picture is not clear enough to read the numbers.
                BTW, what happen if you disconnect those two cables between the LCD panel and the T-CON board?
                Last edited by kevinm34232; 05-16-2018, 09:53 AM.

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                • budm
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                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Sony KDL-46EX640 won't turn on, 5 blinks on standby light.

                  So if you leave the T-CON force on in place, you still get 5 blink codes?
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Sony KDL-46EX640 won't turn on, 5 blinks on standby light.

                    Originally posted by kevinm34232
                    I tried that first and there is no change.
                    I am talking about the two flat cables between the T-CON and the panel, not the two flat cables between T-CON and the main board.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • kevinm34232
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                      • May 2012
                      • 1884
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Sony KDL-46EX640 won't turn on, 5 blinks on standby light.

                      Correct I did disconnect those ribbons,I just need to make sure that when I did that, I had the LVDS cables reconnected which I'm pretty sure I did but I will recheck.

                      Originally posted by budm
                      I am talking about the two flat cables between the T-CON and the panel, not the two flat cables between T-CON and the main board.

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                      • kevinm34232
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                        • May 2012
                        • 1884
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Sony KDL-46EX640 won't turn on, 5 blinks on standby light.

                        I only tried this with the main board disconnected to make sure the power board was good. I had backlights and all voltages.


                        Originally posted by budm
                        So if you leave the T-CON force on in place, you still get 5 blink codes?

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                        • kevinm34232
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                          • May 2012
                          • 1884
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                          #13
                          Re: Sony KDL-46EX640 won't turn on, 5 blinks on standby light.

                          Panel # LTY460HJ07 A02/ LJ96-05959A

                          T-Con: Sony LJ94-24765D

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                          • nomoresonys
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                            • Jan 2013
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                            #14
                            Re: Sony KDL-46EX640 won't turn on, 5 blinks on standby light.

                            So did you try the firmware apply?

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                            • Andrew F. Ali
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                              • Jan 2014
                              • 2450
                              • Trinidad & Tobago

                              #15
                              Re: Sony KDL-46EX640 won't turn on, 5 blinks on standby light.

                              Originally posted by kevinm34232
                              Panel # LTY460HJ07 A02/ LJ96-05959A

                              T-Con: Sony LJ94-24765D
                              Same Panel and T-CON Nos. I repaired. The T-CON is about 40.00 USD. I bought a T-CON Bd. off e-bay as I thought the Level Shifter IC was causing the double image. I eventually cut-off the CKPV1,2&3 and STVP signals with some stationery tape to cure the double image issue. So I have a good T-CON Bd. now.

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                              • nomoresonys
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                                • Jan 2013
                                • 12269
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                                #16
                                Re: Sony KDL-46EX640 won't turn on, 5 blinks on standby light.

                                http://www.ustvparts.com/apps/websto...s/show/3939160 Appears to be a match but triple check if you get it.

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                                • Andrew F. Ali
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Jan 2014
                                  • 2450
                                  • Trinidad & Tobago

                                  #17
                                  Re: Sony KDL-46EX640 won't turn on, 5 blinks on standby light.

                                  T

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                                  • kevinm34232
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                                    • May 2012
                                    • 1884
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Sony KDL-46EX640 won't turn on, 5 blinks on standby light.

                                    I'd like to figure out what T-Con ON error is looking for. There doesn't appear to be any short so not sure what the 5 blinks is all about.

                                    My guess is main board giving false error, but that's why I'm asking the experts..

                                    Do you guys think it's a good idea to send 3.3V to T-Con ON, while connected to main board to see if TV will turn on?
                                    Last edited by kevinm34232; 05-16-2018, 06:21 PM.

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                                    • kevinm34232
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                                      • May 2012
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Sony KDL-46EX640 won't turn on, 5 blinks on standby light.

                                      Originally posted by nomoresonys
                                      So did you try the firmware apply?
                                      Did not try yet, will try shortly. It's questionable if it will accept the USB drive without being able to power up.

                                      update:

                                      TV will not take firmware file automatically...
                                      Last edited by kevinm34232; 05-16-2018, 06:54 PM.

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                                      • kevinm34232
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Sony KDL-46EX640 won't turn on, 5 blinks on standby light.

                                        Just to confirm, same 5 blinks with 2 ribbon cables from T-Con to panel disconnected.

                                        Originally posted by kevinm34232
                                        Correct I did disconnect those ribbons,I just need to make sure that when I did that, I had the LVDS cables reconnected which I'm pretty sure I did but I will recheck.

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