Phillips 50pfp5332d/37 PSU LJ44-0144A

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  • MagicSmoke
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Feb 2011
    • 275
    • USA

    #1

    Phillips 50pfp5332d/37 PSU LJ44-0144A

    Hello All, So I am working on the PSU of said tv, got it free, opened it up, saw 4 or 5 obviously swollen caps and a blown AC main in fuse T8AH250v. Inspected all components and have found no visibly damaged parts. When I removed the 2 large voltage caps 270uf 450v found one to be slightly melted on positive leg and both rattled when shaken.


    So ordered new fuses and all caps, replaced every electrolytic on the board and the fuse with correct series and ratings and polarity. Powered on through light bulb tester, with only ac voltage applied, no other cables connected to PSU.


    Now PSU clicks every second, when it clicks the light bulb flashes bright then back to dim. But does not blow the fuse. So have a short somewhere. There is no schematic that I can find to help troubleshoot.


    During the time supply is plugged in and clicking, it has the following Stable voltages with no fluctuating to relays clicking.


    5vStby = +5.3v
    5vSW = +5.2
    12vssb= +12.2v
    VA Supposed to be 55-65v = +5.9v


    The vs_on pin goes high 3.2v to low 1.2v or so in time with relay clicking, meter is a little slow to read precise volts though. No other voltages present + or -.


    Now for the strange part, the fault led on the board is on solid not flashing any code. The codes are printed on PCB.


    So upon further testing found a 5 band resistor on ac in side connected across Neutral and Load traces before the thermistor to read open with meter. Removed from circuit and retested. It has violet,green, yellow, gold, green bands.


    I used Digi Key's resistor calculator to determine it is supposed to be a 75.4 ohm 5%. Tested with meter reads nothing until put on 2000kohms. it then reads 756kohms. It also reads the same on the cheap ESR tester I got off ebay.


    I am thinking its bad, supposed to read 75.4 ohms or so with meter set to 200ohms. Am I correct? Sorry for the long post, but I have tested almost everything on the board for shorts and have not been able to find any.


    All fets, diodes and main rectifier test ok in circuit. Thanks.
    Last edited by MagicSmoke; 03-08-2018, 07:40 PM.
  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Phillips 50pfp5332d/37 PSU LJ44-0144A

    Can we see the picture of what we are dealing with?
    That resistor is 750K ohms (violet,green, yellow) resistor and not the problem, it is probably a bleeder resistor for the AC line filter circuit, beside that you are getting DC Voltages on the cold side from STBY PS.
    What did you test as far the semiconductor devices are concerned? To blow 8A fuse something must have shorted out.
    Last edited by budm; 03-08-2018, 08:28 PM.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

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    TV Factory reset codes listing:
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    • MagicSmoke
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Feb 2011
      • 275
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Phillips 50pfp5332d/37 PSU LJ44-0144A

      I don't have a good pic of my board, camera is old and crappy. If it is acceptable I can use the pics off SJ. they have way better pics than I can take.


      There are no visibly damaged parts or traces other than the bulged caps.
      This one is hard to trace as the paths jump from top to bottom of board and go under other components.


      Have tested all mosfets and diodes connected to heat sinks, main rectifier, all diodes and in process of testing transitors and optocouplers. None have given any shorted readings in circuit.

      Testing PFC voltage at test points when clicking gives fluctuating voltage from about 160-190v.


      One thing bothers me is the 3 little boards with controllers on them. Have not tested those yet.
      Last edited by MagicSmoke; 03-08-2018, 08:44 PM.

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      • MagicSmoke
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Feb 2011
        • 275
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Phillips 50pfp5332d/37 PSU LJ44-0144A

        Pics from SJ


        http://assets.shopjimmy.com/media/ca...8-bottom_2.jpg


        http://assets.shopjimmy.com/media/ca...4498-top_2.jpg


        Link to pics for zoom.
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        • Andrew F. Ali
          Badcaps Legend
          • Jan 2014
          • 2450
          • Trinidad & Tobago

          #5
          Re: Phillips 50pfp5332d/37 PSU LJ44-0144A

          The PSU is 'clicking' as it is trying to turn-ON without load. Maybe connecting everything back up leaving the 'test-bulb' in place of the fuse and see what happens.

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          • MagicSmoke
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Feb 2011
            • 275
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Phillips 50pfp5332d/37 PSU LJ44-0144A

            I tried plugging in all cables, that just changes the timing of the clicks. I think I found the problem, getting unusual readings in circuit on a Mosfet that is in the VS circuit. Cannot read markings on it yet so not sure what type it is.


            Problem is its attached to a large heatsink that overhangs the part and attaching screw is behind a large transformer. Will have to work on getting everything de-soldered to get it out for testing.

            According to the video I watched, the guy powered it up on the bench with nothing attached but jumper to VS_on and everything is supposed to come on except VA to test.
            Last edited by MagicSmoke; 03-09-2018, 05:57 PM.

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