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  • karthur
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 150
    • United States

    #21
    Re: Samsung UN60EH6000 Tries to come on, but stops

    Originally posted by Davi.p
    But whitout TIP is ridicolous, on a board with very tiny smd components, you risk highly to burn it.. the tester i've said is not professional..
    A added the tip on the end of my lead just so that I could modify it. I have ground this down to a needle point so I can get it into tight places on a board.

    Here is the picture of the T-Con board.

    Thanks

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    • Davi.p
      Badcaps Legend
      • Sep 2009
      • 4266
      • Italy - Milan

      #22
      Re: Samsung UN60EH6000 Tries to come on, but stops

      Is not Hires photo, what can i see with this?? And also, get only tcon not cables and chassis..
      Last edited by Davi.p; 12-10-2017, 10:26 AM.

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      • karthur
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2015
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        #23
        Re: Samsung UN60EH6000 Tries to come on, but stops

        Sorry, just figured out you wanted a "Hii-Res" photo. I'll get you one.

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        • karthur
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 150
          • United States

          #24
          Re: Samsung UN60EH6000 Tries to come on, but stops

          Here is a high resolution image of the T-Con board (BN95-00628C). This image gets compressed in the translation. I also put a copy of it on my google drive so you can get the full resolution image if you need it.

          This is a direct link to the full size image.

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          • Davi.p
            Badcaps Legend
            • Sep 2009
            • 4266
            • Italy - Milan

            #25
            Re: Samsung UN60EH6000 Tries to come on, but stops

            Ok i've DL it, now im editing..

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            • Davi.p
              Badcaps Legend
              • Sep 2009
              • 4266
              • Italy - Milan

              #26
              Re: Samsung UN60EH6000 Tries to come on, but stops

              Test all point in volts. I don't see well to what is connected Q7100 apart those 2 elctrolitycs, but if you want test them...
              If some points has a near zero V then them must be retested with output flatcables detached...
              To upload pictures click on paperclip, a popup window appears, select the file locations, click upload and wait, when done close window then write the text, click newly on the paperclip and select the pictures to include..
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              Last edited by Davi.p; 12-10-2017, 02:09 PM.

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #27
                Re: Samsung UN60EH6000 Tries to come on, but stops

                It looks to be high failure rate T-CON.
                Samsung BN95-00628C (BN97-06551C, BN41-01815A) T-Con Board
                http://www.shopjimmy.com/catalogsear...ung+UN60EH6000
                Notes from SJ:
                PLEASE NOTE: We recommending using one of the following boards as a substitute for this T-con:
                BN96-28943A
                BN96-28944A
                BN95-00944B
                BN95-00944C
                Pictures provided by shopjimmy.
                We have found these boards to have a lower overall failure rate than BN95-00628A, BN95-00628B or BN95-00628C.
                Check the resistance between the two legs of those SMD LYTICS caps (4).
                Report the DC Voltage reading of the ADJ 1117 LDO IC303.
                Attached Files
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • karthur
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2015
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                  #28
                  Re: Samsung UN60EH6000 Tries to come on, but stops

                  Originally posted by Davi.p
                  Test all point in volts. I don't see well to what is connected Q7100 apart those 2 elctrolitycs, but if you want test them...
                  If some points has a near zero V then them must be retested with output flatcables detached...
                  To upload pictures click on paperclip, a popup window appears, select the file locations, click upload and wait, when done close window then write the text, click newly on the paperclip and select the pictures to include..
                  Here are the readings with the output cables connected (all readings in dc Volts):
                  A=1.8
                  B=3.3
                  C=12.7
                  D=12.7
                  E=12.7
                  F=12.7
                  G=0
                  H=12.7
                  I=0
                  J= n/a
                  K= n/a
                  L=12.7
                  M=0.7
                  N=12.7

                  For the ones that were close to Zero, I retested with output cables disconnected.
                  G=0
                  I= 0
                  M=0.7

                  I found the Q7100 that you mentioned, but not sure what I need to test there. If I need to check something near Q7100, just let me know what it is.



                  Thanks.
                  Last edited by karthur; 12-10-2017, 10:33 PM.

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                  • karthur
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 150
                    • United States

                    #29
                    Re: Samsung UN60EH6000 Tries to come on, but stops

                    Originally posted by budm
                    Check the resistance between the two legs of those SMD LYTICS caps (4).
                    Report the DC Voltage reading of the ADJ 1117 LDO IC303.
                    Where are the SMD LYTICS caps?

                    Can't find the ADJ 1117.

                    Here is what I get on IC303.

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                    • freakaftr8
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 3743
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: Samsung UN60EH6000 Tries to come on, but stops

                      IC 303 seems right. That's a fixed regulator.
                      Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                      • freakaftr8
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 3743
                        • USA

                        #31
                        Re: Samsung UN60EH6000 Tries to come on, but stops

                        IC 7100 shoud have about 12v in I believe. Opposite side of triangle. Triangle pin should have output voltage.
                        Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                        • nicholas1110
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 127
                          • usa

                          #32
                          Re: Samsung UN60EH6000 Tries to come on, but stops

                          We have repaired many of these boards. It is usually the ic ISL9860. Shop jimmy has a repair kit for this tcon and also a YouTube video showing the easiest way to remove and replace this ic. In the YouTube video they show replacing 2 smd caps. If you test those with your meter they will show shorted. This means the ic is shorted. Hope this helps.

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                          • karthur
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 150
                            • United States

                            #33
                            Re: Samsung UN60EH6000 Tries to come on, but stops

                            Originally posted by nicholas1110
                            We have repaired many of these boards. It is usually the ic ISL9860. Shop jimmy has a repair kit for this tcon and also a YouTube video showing the easiest way to remove and replace this ic. In the YouTube video they show replacing 2 smd caps. If you test those with your meter they will show shorted. This means the ic is shorted. Hope this helps.
                            The repair kit that I found for my board on SJ is out-of-stock. Does anyone know the size of the two SMD caps that I need?

                            I have a source for the ISL9860.

                            Thanks.

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                            • vinceroger69
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 6714
                              • uk

                              #34
                              Re: Samsung UN60EH6000 Tries to come on, but stops

                              Originally posted by karthur
                              The repair kit that I found for my board on SJ is out-of-stock. Does anyone know the size of the two SMD caps that I need?

                              I have a source for the ISL9860.

                              Thanks.
                              if shopjimmy are out of stock maybe message them as they may advise you on the capacitor values/size they are very helpful i find

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                              • karthur
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2015
                                • 150
                                • United States

                                #35
                                Re: Samsung UN60EH6000 Tries to come on, but stops

                                No-can-do on providing the size of the capacitor. Anyone with a service manual that will tell the size of it?

                                Thanks.

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                                • vinceroger69
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Mar 2012
                                  • 6714
                                  • uk

                                  #36
                                  Re: Samsung UN60EH6000 Tries to come on, but stops

                                  do you know the voltage and uf rating already and you just need the physical size?

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                                  • karthur
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Nov 2015
                                    • 150
                                    • United States

                                    #37
                                    Re: Samsung UN60EH6000 Tries to come on, but stops

                                    I am going to check the caps tonight.... maybe mine are not damaged. If they are gone, I would have to know all aspects of them to order new ones. I could get the physical size, but would have to correlate to a form factor.

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                                    • vinceroger69
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Mar 2012
                                      • 6714
                                      • uk

                                      #38
                                      Re: Samsung UN60EH6000 Tries to come on, but stops

                                      i have a cheap pair of digital calipers and use this guide https://www.pcblibraries.com/forum/s...topic1729.html
                                      norcal715 has a video on this fault https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuHrnvAKlGw
                                      Attached Files
                                      Last edited by vinceroger69; 12-11-2017, 03:35 PM.

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                                      • freakaftr8
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Oct 2012
                                        • 3743
                                        • USA

                                        #39
                                        Re: Samsung UN60EH6000 Tries to come on, but stops

                                        Nice charts! But Where in those charts show the capacitence?
                                        Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                                        • karthur
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Nov 2015
                                          • 150
                                          • United States

                                          #40
                                          Re: Samsung UN60EH6000 Tries to come on, but stops

                                          Originally posted by vinceroger69
                                          norcal715 has a video on this fault https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuHrnvAKlGw
                                          Yea, that is one of the YT videos I watched. Norcal makes it look easy.

                                          He is probably right about why they are failing (heat... need to add thermal conductor)

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