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  • dick_barton
    Badcaps Legend
    • Aug 2015
    • 6643
    • Wales

    #41
    Re: Samsung UE40C6000RWXXN clicking power board issue

    Fuses are for protection. Bridging it removes the protection and you could easily end up with parts blowing up giving you an even bigger problem than you have already.
    Best replace it with likewise fuse.

    If FM801S is blown then you need to recheck the mosfets Q803 & Q803 with your set powered off and using your meter set to diode mode --!>--
    to see if they have are short circuit. It would also be wise to check all the diodes around that part of the circuit. DM810, DM811, DM812,
    Last edited by dick_barton; 07-12-2017, 01:33 PM.
    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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    • sepper
      Member
      • Jul 2017
      • 32
      • Belgium

      #42
      Re: Samsung UE40C6000RWXXN clicking power board issue

      Originally posted by dick_barton
      Fuses are for protection. Bridging it removes the protection and you could easily end up with parts blowing up giving you an even bigger problem than you have already.
      Best replace it with likewise fuse.
      Ok, I have to order one Hopefully it's here tomorrow but It's late so I guess it will be here on friday.

      Sorry for letting you guys search so deep in the diagram because of a stupid fuse mistake. I thought it was acting as a diode. Learned a lot already. I hope the issue will be fixed by the replacing the fuse. Keep you guys posted. And thanks a 1000x times!

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #43
        Re: Samsung UE40C6000RWXXN clicking power board issue

        You need to check MOSFETs QM802, and QM803 for shorted circuit between Source pin and the Drain pin.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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        TV Factory reset codes listing:
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        • sepper
          Member
          • Jul 2017
          • 32
          • Belgium

          #44
          Re: Samsung UE40C6000RWXXN clicking power board issue

          Originally posted by budm
          You need to check MOSFETs QM802, and QM803 for shorted circuit between Source pin and the Drain pin.
          They are all shorted

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          • dick_barton
            Badcaps Legend
            • Aug 2015
            • 6643
            • Wales

            #45
            Re: Samsung UE40C6000RWXXN clicking power board issue

            Fuses are for protection. Bridging it removes the protection and you could easily end up with parts blowing up giving you an even bigger problem than you have already.
            Best replace it with likewise fuse.

            If FM801S is blown then you need to recheck the mosfets Q803 & Q803 with your set powered off and using your meter set to diode mode --!>!--
            to see if they have are short circuit.
            It would also be wise to check all the diodes around that part of the circuit. DM810, DM811, DM812, dual diodes DM804, DM806 as well as checking the resistors.
            Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #46
              Re: Samsung UE40C6000RWXXN clicking power board issue

              All the resistance reading combination of all 3 pins show <1 Ohms?
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • sepper
                Member
                • Jul 2017
                • 32
                • Belgium

                #47
                Re: Samsung UE40C6000RWXXN clicking power board issue

                Originally posted by budm
                All the resistance reading combination of all 3 pins show <1 Ohms?
                Around 1-2 ohms on circuit

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #48
                  Re: Samsung UE40C6000RWXXN clicking power board issue

                  Well, remove them and test them off the board next.
                  Last edited by budm; 07-12-2017, 02:23 PM.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • sepper
                    Member
                    • Jul 2017
                    • 32
                    • Belgium

                    #49
                    Re: Samsung UE40C6000RWXXN clicking power board issue

                    Originally posted by budm
                    Well, remove hem and test them off the board next.
                    1.5 ohm from gate to drain and 2.2 ohm from source to drain for QM803
                    0.9 ohm from gate to drain and 2.2 ohm from source to drain for QM802
                    Last edited by sepper; 07-12-2017, 02:32 PM.

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                    • sepper
                      Member
                      • Jul 2017
                      • 32
                      • Belgium

                      #50
                      Re: Samsung UE40C6000RWXXN clicking power board issue

                      Originally posted by budm
                      Well, remove them and test them off the board next.
                      I have new fuses. They are bigger then the original because otherwise I had to wait too long. But the value is the same 2A 250V. So I can make them fit.
                      Should I investigate something more before I put the power on again?

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                      • diif
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 6978
                        • England

                        #51
                        Re: Samsung UE40C6000RWXXN clicking power board issue

                        Originally posted by sepper
                        I have new fuses. They are bigger then the original because otherwise I had to wait too long. But the value is the same 2A 250V. So I can make them fit.
                        Should I investigate something more before I put the power on again?
                        Did you change the mosfets or is it just the fuse you have replaced ?

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                        • sepper
                          Member
                          • Jul 2017
                          • 32
                          • Belgium

                          #52
                          Re: Samsung UE40C6000RWXXN clicking power board issue

                          Originally posted by diif
                          Did you change the mosfets or is it just the fuse you have replaced ?
                          Just the fuse. Are the mosfets broken according to my measurements?

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #53
                            Re: Samsung UE40C6000RWXXN clicking power board issue

                            Time delayed fuse for the replacement?
                            Change the MOSFETs, the IC that drives the MOSFETs may be damaged also.
                            Last edited by budm; 07-14-2017, 09:06 AM.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • sepper
                              Member
                              • Jul 2017
                              • 32
                              • Belgium

                              #54
                              Re: Samsung UE40C6000RWXXN clicking power board issue

                              Originally posted by budm
                              Time delayed fuse for the replacement?
                              Change the MOSFETs, the IC that drives the MOSFETs may be damaged also.
                              Arghhh.. I missed it completely because I wanted to order before the shop closed -.-. I got a slow blow...

                              I think I just order myself a new board found one on aliexpress for 25 dollar that's the same price I spend on the components already because I bought them x25

                              I'm just to noobish to fix this myself I guess. So I better spare you guys time But I would like to thank all of you for the incredible help and fast responses!

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #55
                                Re: Samsung UE40C6000RWXXN clicking power board issue

                                Time delayed = Slo-Blo
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                Comment

                                • sepper
                                  Member
                                  • Jul 2017
                                  • 32
                                  • Belgium

                                  #56
                                  Re: Samsung UE40C6000RWXXN clicking power board issue

                                  Originally posted by budm
                                  Time delayed = Slo-Blo
                                  Oh ^^

                                  Well , I soldered my fuse. And I thought let's just give a try Plenty of fuses in the house. But I plugged in and it blew my fuse holder of FS801S out of my soldering. But I think it's not broken. So little bit scared to plug it in again =/

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #57
                                    Re: Samsung UE40C6000RWXXN clicking power board issue

                                    Expected that with shorted MOSFETs.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                    Comment

                                    • sepper
                                      Member
                                      • Jul 2017
                                      • 32
                                      • Belgium

                                      #58
                                      Re: Samsung UE40C6000RWXXN clicking power board issue

                                      Originally posted by budm
                                      Expected that with shorted MOSFETs.
                                      I bought another powersupply from aliexpress. Well... It doesn't make the click sound anymore. But now I got no picture only sound I do got backlight and I don't see something when I shine a flashlight on it.
                                      Any tips to investigate?

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                                      • sepper
                                        Member
                                        • Jul 2017
                                        • 32
                                        • Belgium

                                        #59
                                        Re: Samsung UE40C6000RWXXN clicking power board issue

                                        Nvm. Fixed it My connection to the t-con board was not good. But now it's ok and tv is working So case closed

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