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  • StephenU
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    • Dec 2013
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    • United Kingdom

    #1

    UE32C5100 Standby Only

    Hi all I have the following TV which I'm trying to repair. I'm only getting 5v standby on the output of connector CNM801 (pin 16). No other voltages present and TV won't come out of standby. Both fuses are fine and I've also checked the backlights are working and they are fine.

    PSU - BN44-00351B

    Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance.

    S.
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  • dick_barton
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    • Aug 2015
    • 6642
    • Wales

    #2
    Re: UE32C5100 Standby Only

    Disconnect the mainboard and connect pin 16 to pin 18 using a 1K resistor. Then check you have all the voltages on that connector.
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    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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    • StephenU
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      • Dec 2013
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      #3
      Re: UE32C5100 Standby Only

      Sorry can't seem to find a 1K only one I have found is a surface mount one. I'll need to order some up. Unless there is another option. Thanks

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      • dskall
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        • Oct 2016
        • 2905
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        #4
        Re: UE32C5100 Standby Only

        Something close. I have just jumped direct and haven't had a problem. But better to bring voltage down with resistor
        Last edited by dskall; 06-22-2017, 01:00 PM.
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        • dick_barton
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          • Aug 2015
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          #5
          Re: UE32C5100 Standby Only

          Go around to any local electrical repair shop and scrounge some.
          Last edited by dick_barton; 06-22-2017, 01:03 PM.
          Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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          • budm
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            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: UE32C5100 Standby Only

            The value can be anything from 330~1000 Ohms, it is to limit the current in case the connection is made wrong.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • dick_barton
              Badcaps Legend
              • Aug 2015
              • 6642
              • Wales

              #7
              Re: UE32C5100 Standby Only

              On many set you can jumper without a resistor but unless you have the circuit diagram in front of you it can actually cause damage.
              Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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              • StephenU
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                • Dec 2013
                • 230
                • United Kingdom

                #8
                Re: UE32C5100 Standby Only

                Thanks all I'll be grabbing a few things from Maplins on way home today so will also get a few resistors also. And see how I get on later. (Hopefully can repair it as I've noticed a few on the bay for £50+, don't fancy forking that out tbh.!!)

                Thanks again.

                S.

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                • StephenU
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                  • Dec 2013
                  • 230
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                  #9
                  Re: UE32C5100 Standby Only

                  Originally posted by dick_barton
                  Disconnect the mainboard and connect pin 16 to pin 18 using a 1K resistor. Then check you have all the voltages on that connector.

                  Readings took with 1K res in place across 16-18

                  Pin 1 - 13.27
                  Pin 2 - 0
                  Pin 3 - 13.27
                  Pin 4 - 2.951
                  Pin 5 - 13.26
                  Pin 6 - 5.126
                  Pin 7 - GND
                  Pin 8 - GND
                  Pin 9 - GND
                  Pin 10 - GND
                  Pin 11 - 5.279
                  Pin 12 - 0
                  Pin 13 - 5.279
                  Pin 14 - 5.279
                  Pin 15 - 13.26
                  Pin 16 - 5.279
                  Pin 17 - 13.26
                  Pin 18 - 1.164

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                  • dskall
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                    • Oct 2016
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                    #10
                    Re: UE32C5100 Standby Only

                    You will make it easier on us if you give us pin descriptions
                    I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

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                    • StephenU
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                      • Dec 2013
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                      #11
                      Re: UE32C5100 Standby Only

                      Silkscreen on the PCB

                      Pin 1 (D12V) - 13.27
                      Pin 2 (DET) - 0
                      Pin 3 (D12V) - 13.27
                      Pin 4 (BL ON)- 2.951
                      Pin 5 (D12V) - 13.26
                      Pin 6 (PWM) - 5.126
                      Pin 7 - GND
                      Pin 8 - GND
                      Pin 9 - GND
                      Pin 10 - GND
                      Pin 11 (D5.3V) - 5.279
                      Pin 12 (GND) - 0
                      Pin 13 (D5.3V) - 5.279
                      Pin 14 (D5.3V) - 5.279
                      Pin 15 (Vamp) - 13.26
                      Pin 16 (SB) - 5.279
                      Pin 17 (Vamp) - 13.26
                      Pin 18 (PS) - 1.164

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                      • dskall
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                        • Oct 2016
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                        #12
                        Re: UE32C5100 Standby Only

                        How are you trying to power on? With remote, power button on tv. With everything plugged in do you get anything on PS when you push button?
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                        • dick_barton
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                          • Aug 2015
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                          #13
                          Re: UE32C5100 Standby Only

                          Those voltages all look fine except for Pin 2 (DET) which I'm unsure of what value it should be.

                          So once again disconnect the mainboard and connect pin 16 to pin 18 using a 1K resistor and also a 1K resistor between pin 16 to pin 4 (Backlights On) and see if the backlights come on?
                          Last edited by dick_barton; 06-23-2017, 12:18 PM.
                          Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                          • dick_barton
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                            • Aug 2015
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                            #14
                            Re: UE32C5100 Standby Only

                            I've just re-read your first post and you say that the backlights are working.
                            Put the resistors to one side for now and reconnect your mainboard and check the dc voltage at Pin 18 when in standby and when you attempt to take it out of standby and post results.
                            Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                            • StephenU
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                              • Dec 2013
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                              #15
                              Re: UE32C5100 Standby Only

                              When I connect the TV back up and apply power, I get basically 0v then it jumps to 0.7v on pin 18 and does this every 3/4 seconds, no response from remote or touch power sensor. When I disconnect power the DC voltage slowly drops from 0.7v to 0v

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                              • dskall
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                                • Oct 2016
                                • 2905
                                • usa

                                #16
                                Re: UE32C5100 Standby Only

                                You may have a bad voltage regulator on main board. Maybe some good pictures of main board.
                                I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

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                                • StephenU
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                                  #17
                                  Re: UE32C5100 Standby Only

                                  Hope these help guys, thanks.
                                  Attached Files

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                                  • dick_barton
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                                    • Aug 2015
                                    • 6642
                                    • Wales

                                    #18
                                    Re: UE32C5100 Standby Only

                                    It looks like you are not getting PWR_ON from the main board so whatever the problem is it's not the power supply.
                                    Some good photo's of your mainboard would be good.
                                    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                                    • StephenU
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                                      • Dec 2013
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                                      • United Kingdom

                                      #19
                                      Re: UE32C5100 Standby Only

                                      heh guys, plugged it all in and run a hairdryer over the mainboard and within 30 seconds tv booted up fine, so most definitely mainboard issue....

                                      mainboard number - BN41-01549B

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                                      • budm
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                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: UE32C5100 Standby Only

                                        Pictures of the Main board?
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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