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  • SurrealMustard
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jan 2015
    • 486
    • The United States of America

    #1

    Sony KDL-32S3000 LCD 2 Blinks Error code

    I'm working on this Sony Bravia LCD and was wondering if anybody has any ideas as to how to figure out what the problem is. What happens is that when the power button is pressed, I hear the relay click and the power light comes on, but nothing happens for a few seconds. After that, the power light comes off and the "STANDBY" light blinks twice repeatedly. No backlight, no video at any time in the process.

    According to the service guide, two blinks indicates a "balancer error." Now, I'm not that familiar with Sony products, but I am familiar enough to know that, like Apple, they have their own proprietary names for things, so I guess the question is, what is the "balancer," first of all, and how can I diagnose it?

    In the only other thread that BadCaps has published on the issue, it was suggested by one person that this is likely to be a GH1 board. If "GH1" equals G1H, then that looks to be the power supply. Is the power supply the "balancer?"
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  • dskall
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2016
    • 2905
    • usa

    #2
    Re: Sony KDL-32S3000 LCD 2 Blinks Error code

    Balancer may have to do with inverter/backlights
    I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Sony KDL-32S3000 LCD 2 Blinks Error code

      No balancer board in this model, only the inverter board.
      Do you notice that the backlights even come on for seconds?
      Can we see where you get that error code from that indicated it is Balancer error?
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

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      • SurrealMustard
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        • Jan 2015
        • 486
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        #4
        No backlights, even for a moment

        Originally posted by budm
        No balancer board in this model, only the inverter board.
        Do you notice that the backlights even come on for seconds?
        Can we see where you get that error code from that indicated it is Balancer error?
        I tested it in a dark room and the backlights don't come on at all whatsoever as far as I can tell. The error code was decoded using page seven of the service guide (attached).
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        • SurrealMustard
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          • Jan 2015
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          #5
          Intersection of Troubleshooting

          So, given the symptoms, is it a reasonable assumption that we're looking at either a bad power supply or a bad inverter? If so, what would be the best way to narrow it down to find out exactly?

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          • dick_barton
            Badcaps Legend
            • Aug 2015
            • 6642
            • Wales

            #6
            Re: Sony KDL-32S3000 LCD 2 Blinks Error code

            What voltages do you have at CN6402 Pins 1 -> 5
            Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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            • SurrealMustard
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Jan 2015
              • 486
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              #7
              CN6402 is MIA

              Originally posted by dick_barton
              What voltages do you have at CN6402 Pins 1 -> 5
              I don't know. I don't see a CN6402 connector anywhere in this thing. Some of the connectors on the power board do tell what they're supposed to be carrying, but none of them contain the BAL_ERR, INV_ERR, BACKLIGHT, or DIMMER_PWM that are supposed to be on CN6402. None of the connectors on the power supply are registering much of anything at all, strangely enough.

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              • dick_barton
                Badcaps Legend
                • Aug 2015
                • 6642
                • Wales

                #8
                Re: Sony KDL-32S3000 LCD 2 Blinks Error code

                I would lift the cover from the inverter board and check that none of the fuses have blown.
                Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                • dick_barton
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 6642
                  • Wales

                  #9
                  Re: Sony KDL-32S3000 LCD 2 Blinks Error code

                  The power supply schematic attached.
                  Attached Files
                  Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                  • SurrealMustard
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 486
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                    #10
                    Inverter Fuzes test good

                    Originally posted by dick_barton
                    I would lift the cover from the inverter board and check that none of the fuses have blown.
                    I tested all three of the fuses that I could find and they all checked out.

                    Originally posted by dick_barton
                    The power supply schematic attached.
                    Is that the same one as in the service guide?

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                    • vinceroger69
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 6714
                      • uk

                      #11
                      Re: Intersection of Troubleshooting

                      Originally posted by SurrealMustard
                      So, given the symptoms, is it a reasonable assumption that we're looking at either a bad power supply or a bad inverter? If so, what would be the best way to narrow it down to find out exactly?
                      could be the mainboard too not sending the voltages to the inverter board i wonder if you can force on the psu and check all voltages are correct is there any writing on the underside of the psu by the connectors to tell us what each pin does etc

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                      • Andrew F. Ali
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 2450
                        • Trinidad & Tobago

                        #12
                        Re: Sony KDL-32S3000 LCD 2 Blinks Error code

                        Disconnect the cable from the PSU to the Inverter bd and power-up the TV. If it is the Inverter Bd that was causing the problem then the 24V should remain on and the ' 2-blink' should stop also, confirming the Inverter Bd as faulty.

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                        • SurrealMustard
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                          • Jan 2015
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                          #13
                          Troubleshooting differential

                          Originally posted by dskall
                          Balancer may have to do with inverter/backlights
                          Under the "Meaning/Related" fault for a balancer error, it says "Balancer error/PANEL_DET (PMUX6.7) to low level, between 2.48V and 0.83V." I searched the rest of the manual for PANEL_DET, but didn't find much except for some tiny references to it on the schematics. What exactly does PANEL_DET (defined as "panel detect" in some literature online) do?

                          Originally posted by vinceroger69
                          could be the mainboard too not sending the voltages to the inverter board i wonder if you can force on the psu and check all voltages are correct is there any writing on the underside of the psu by the connectors to tell us what each pin does etc
                          There's writing on the topside actually. Only for the connectors on the power supply though.

                          Originally posted by Andrew F. Ali
                          Disconnect the cable from the PSU to the Inverter bd and power-up the TV. If it is the Inverter Bd that was causing the problem then the 24V should remain on and the ' 2-blink' should stop also, confirming the Inverter Bd as faulty.
                          Same two blinks when powering up with the inverter power connection unplugged.
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                          Last edited by SurrealMustard; 05-11-2017, 09:22 AM. Reason: addressing andrew's new post

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                          • vinceroger69
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 6714
                            • uk

                            #14
                            Re: Sony KDL-32S3000 LCD 2 Blinks Error code

                            on the invertor board by the mainboard connector is there any writing?

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                            • Andrew F. Ali
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 2450
                              • Trinidad & Tobago

                              #15
                              Re: Intersection of Troubleshooting

                              Originally posted by vinceroger69
                              could be the mainboard too not sending the voltages to the inverter board i wonder if you can force on the psu and check all voltages are correct is there any writing on the underside of the psu by the connectors to tell us what each pin does etc
                              Disconnect the cable on the PSU going to the Main Bd when forcing the PSU on. Also I noticed the Inverter working with 12Vdc and not 24Vdc.

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                              • dick_barton
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 6642
                                • Wales

                                #16
                                Re: Inverter Fuzes test good

                                Originally posted by SurrealMustard
                                Is that the same one as in the service guide?
                                Your power supply is marked as APS-229 G1H and I believe that it is the correct schematic for your power supply. Compare the schematic against your board to be certain.
                                Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                                • SurrealMustard
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Jan 2015
                                  • 486
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                                  #17
                                  hidden pinout

                                  Originally posted by vinceroger69
                                  on the invertor board by the mainboard connector is there any writing?
                                  As a matter of fact, there is a pinout on the back of the inverter near the connector. Would the "DET" on there possibly be related to the "PANEL_DET" cited by the service guide?
                                  Attached Files

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                                  • Andrew F. Ali
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Jan 2014
                                    • 2450
                                    • Trinidad & Tobago

                                    #18
                                    Re: Inverter Fuzes test good

                                    Originally posted by dick_barton
                                    Your power supply is marked as APS-229 G1H and I believe that it is the correct schematic for your power supply. Compare the schematic against your board to be certain.
                                    All this happening while Main Bd disconnected+5c-. OK so this will make it easy. Self-test the PSU by
                                    1. Disconnect on the Main Bd side the cables going to the%
                                    Last edited by Andrew F. Ali; 05-11-2017, 10:48 AM.

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Sony KDL-32S3000 LCD 2 Blinks Error code

                                      Your TV is WAX3 chassis, not SE1A chassis.


                                      See training manual about 2-blink code page 22, 30.
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                                      Last edited by budm; 05-11-2017, 11:42 AM.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • Andrew F. Ali
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Jan 2014
                                        • 2450
                                        • Trinidad & Tobago

                                        #20
                                        Re: Sony KDL-32S3000 LCD 2 Blinks Error code

                                        Ignore my previous post as I just saw budm's post. Sorry.

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