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  • anthonystv
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2014
    • 73
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    #41
    Re: Vizio E470i-A0 - FL test ok, half bl working

    I just put the front escution back on its working and I have done NOTHING to fxi it
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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #42
      Re: Vizio E470i-A0 - FL test ok, half bl working

      Your TV has dynamic contrast control (Faked Dynamic contrast spec), the backlights level will vary with the Video signal.
      But the amount of variation you are seeing is not big at all, 0.380 ~ 0.404V it is less than 10%.
      Look to see if you can turn off the Dynamic contrast function in t he OSD user settings menu
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • anthonystv
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2014
        • 73
        • USA

        #43
        Re: Vizio E470i-A0 - FL test ok, half bl working

        Is there any way the Main Board could Instruct the one channel to shut down even if its a malfunction on that control line ?

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #44
          Re: Vizio E470i-A0 - FL test ok, half bl working

          No, typical backlights protection circuit in the LED driver will shut down All output if one or both loads are not present, it will also shut down if one or both detect over current.
          Some TV will send the error signal to the main board when the protection circuit kicks in so main board will set the error code.
          Last edited by budm; 05-04-2019, 05:02 PM.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #45
            Re: Vizio E470i-A0 - FL test ok, half bl working

            BTW, in your video where you show the test points using the leg of the R9110, R9210.
            It shows that low (0.38V ~ 0.44V) because that is the vdrops on the current sensing resistor, the Voltage will be higher if you measure the Voltage at pin 1 and pin 5 of the LED connector.
            Can you check the resistance value of R9110 and R9210?
            Last edited by budm; 05-04-2019, 05:03 PM.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • anthonystv
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2014
              • 73
              • USA

              #46
              Re: Vizio E470i-A0 - FL test ok, half bl working

              ill do that monday it is higher on the pin did you watch all the videos I uploaded ?

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              • anthonystv
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2014
                • 73
                • USA

                #47
                Re: Vizio E470i-A0 - FL test ok, half bl working

                So we still have a mystery because only the one channel is affected by the video not the other and I agree with you can't see why it would be designed that way. But you saw it. And the channel that is affected is the channel we were having issues with shutting down .

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #48
                  Re: Vizio E470i-A0 - FL test ok, half bl working

                  1) Your post #32: STEADY VOLTS
                  So 105v >>>>>>>27 LEDS .7 VDC ,,,,,,,back to power board
                  thats from the set that works with no issues.
                  My reply on post #33:
                  "As you can see it does not add up, and you get the same result with replacement power supply.
                  But you indicated that you have working TV for comparison so if you transfer the board from non-working to the working TV one at a time then you can see if the boards from the bad set are good or not."
                  You never reply to let me me know if you have done that or not, that will tell you if the symptom will change or follows the board or not.
                  2) Your post #47:
                  So we still have a mystery because only the one channel is affected by the video not the other and I agree with you can't see why it would be designed that way. But you saw it. And the channel that is affected is the channel we were having issues with shutting down .
                  Answer, that will easy to prove by checking the working set to see if it does the same thing all not.
                  3) You have two same model TV one is working and one is not working correct with backlights that go out, that should be easy to do comparison test and do the board swapping.
                  Last edited by budm; 05-05-2019, 01:05 PM.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • anthonystv
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 73
                    • USA

                    #49
                    Re: Vizio E470i-A0 - FL test ok, half bl working

                    I have one tv I have 2 sets of power boards ...actually 3 but IM ignoring that one completley as it was the original board in the tv and is actually different but crosses to the boards were working with
                    The resistor values you asked for a are 1.8 ohm and 1.7 ohm with about .4 ohm error on shorted probe 0 check The tv is running this morning and the volatges are as follows 105 at initial start up then when i get picture drops to 100v both channels

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                    • anthonystv
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 73
                      • USA

                      #50
                      Re: Vizio E470i-A0 - FL test ok, half bl working

                      Im going to button this up the customer is stoning me for his tv ... both boards react the same .. I have the kit from Shopjimmy
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                      • anthonystv
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2014
                        • 73
                        • USA

                        #51
                        Re: Vizio E470i-A0 - FL test ok, half bl working

                        Since its working it came right on this am with no issues it worked all day sat with no issues Im going to call it fixed but this is good information for anyone trying to repair these boards..
                        Thanks for your help

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                        • anthonystv
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 73
                          • USA

                          #52
                          Re: Vizio E470i-A0 - FL test ok, half bl working

                          The color codes on the resistors make no sense to me since I calculate 15 ohms
                          but that is obviously wrong
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                          Last edited by anthonystv; 05-06-2019, 07:05 AM. Reason: picture didnt upoload

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                          • anthonystv
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 73
                            • USA

                            #53
                            Re: Vizio E470i-A0 - FL test ok, half bl working

                            Spoke too soon acting stupid once again
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofel9i31FY0

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                            • anthonystv
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 73
                              • USA

                              #54
                              Re: Vizio E470i-A0 - FL test ok, half bl working

                              well its related to hdmi signal somehow
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TIVgQVMQts

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                              • anthonystv
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 73
                                • USA

                                #55
                                Re: Vizio E470i-A0 - FL test ok, half bl working

                                Pin 11. 2.5 v pin 10. .119. Short pin 10 to pin 11 and ch 2 starts up. Plug to the main board

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                                • anthonystv
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Jun 2014
                                  • 73
                                  • USA

                                  #56
                                  Re: Vizio E470i-A0 - FL test ok, half bl working

                                  to my surprise The BL adjustment still works

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                                  • anthonystv
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Jun 2014
                                    • 73
                                    • USA

                                    #57
                                    Re: Vizio E470i-A0 - FL test ok, half bl working

                                    conclusion BAD MAIN BOARD

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                                    • anthonystv
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Jun 2014
                                      • 73
                                      • USA

                                      #58
                                      Re: Vizio E470i-A0 - FL test ok, half bl working

                                      left the jumper and its going out the door! DONE

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