Westinghouse VR-3710 stuck in standby

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  • dick_barton
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    • Aug 2015
    • 6643
    • Wales

    #21
    Re: Westinghouse VR-3710 stuck in standby

    The electrolytic capacitor(s) that the diode connects to may need changing but I would replace the diode first and check the 24V supply is solid.
    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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    • isherwood
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      • Feb 2017
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      #22
      Re: Westinghouse VR-3710 stuck in standby

      Cool. Order placed.

      The existing diode has two of what I assume are rf chokes. Should I reinstall those on the new diode?

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      • dskall
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        • Oct 2016
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        #23
        Re: Westinghouse VR-3710 stuck in standby

        Maybe you need to post picture of this diode. If you tested out of circuit there should be no capacitive effect in reading, nor rf chokes.
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        • isherwood
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          #24
          Re: Westinghouse VR-3710 stuck in standby

          You can see them in the original photos I posted. They're anchored with green adhesive. One on each lead next to the diode body.

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          • dskall
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            • Oct 2016
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            #25
            Re: Westinghouse VR-3710 stuck in standby

            OK yes you need to put them on new diode.
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            • isherwood
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              • Feb 2017
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              #26
              Re: Westinghouse VR-3710 stuck in standby

              I can find nothing about those rings in my research. If anyone has a link to an explanation, please post it.

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              • vinceroger69
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                • Mar 2012
                • 6714
                • uk

                #27
                Re: Westinghouse VR-3710 stuck in standby

                thats a ferrite bead on the leg of the diode there are some refrence to them in google searches im sure budm if he sees this thread will know and explaine for us its purpose.

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                • budm
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                  • Feb 2010
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                  #28
                  Re: Westinghouse VR-3710 stuck in standby

                  The Ferrite bead is put on the leg of the device to form a very small inductor.
                  Last edited by budm; 02-22-2017, 02:23 PM.
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                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
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                  • budm
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                    • Feb 2010
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                    #29
                    Re: Westinghouse VR-3710 stuck in standby

                    Attached Files
                    Last edited by budm; 02-22-2017, 02:24 PM.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • vinceroger69
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                      • Mar 2012
                      • 6714
                      • uk

                      #30
                      Re: Westinghouse VR-3710 stuck in standby

                      Thanks budm ive saw them before mosfets etc but not on a diode before some good reading in your links thanks.
                      Last edited by vinceroger69; 02-22-2017, 02:47 PM.

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                      • isherwood
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                        • Feb 2017
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                        • United States

                        #31
                        Re: Westinghouse VR-3710 stuck in standby

                        Thanks! From that document:

                        A major noise source has been traced to the oscillation from the MOSFET at switching on-off transient. Typically, parasitic oscillation frequencies are in the range of several tens to hundreds of megahertz. The parasitic oscillation can cause gate-source breakdown, bad EMI, large switching losses, losing gate control, and can even lead to MOSFET failures. A ferrite bead is often used on MOSFET gate leads to provide stable operation by suppressing parasitic oscillation, while minimizing switching losses. In fact, adding a ferrite bead is more effective than using gate resistance alone because the impedance of the ferrite bead varies by frequency.

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                        • isherwood
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                          • Feb 2017
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                          #32
                          Re: Westinghouse VR-3710 stuck in standby

                          Ok, replacing the diode brought back the 24v pins. The power light goes from red to green when I hit the power button, but no picture. I used a light but couldn't see anything.

                          The C31 cap reads 167 on standby and 383 power on.

                          What's my next move? Thank you.

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                          • dskall
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                            • Oct 2016
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                            #33
                            Re: Westinghouse VR-3710 stuck in standby

                            Do you have backlights?
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                            • isherwood
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                              • Feb 2017
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                              #34
                              Re: Westinghouse VR-3710 stuck in standby

                              Nope.

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                              • dskall
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                                #35
                                Re: Westinghouse VR-3710 stuck in standby

                                So you need to find out if you get a backlight on voltage. It may be the one on con2f that says sw.
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                                • dick_barton
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                                  • Aug 2015
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                                  #36
                                  Re: Westinghouse VR-3710 stuck in standby

                                  Do you have a photo of the mainboard connection to inverter
                                  Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                                  • isherwood
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                                    • Feb 2017
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                                    • United States

                                    #37
                                    Re: Westinghouse VR-3710 stuck in standby

                                    Still investigating.
                                    Attached Files

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                                    • isherwood
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                                      • Feb 2017
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                                      #38
                                      Re: Westinghouse VR-3710 stuck in standby

                                      No voltage at any of the CON2F pins.

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                                      • dskall
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                                        • Oct 2016
                                        • 2905
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                                        #39
                                        Re: Westinghouse VR-3710 stuck in standby

                                        You have two connectors that go into the panel for backlights. You can check voltage on each as you power on the set and see if you get momentary voltage and report max voltage if any.
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                                        • dick_barton
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                                          • Aug 2015
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                                          #40
                                          Re: Westinghouse VR-3710 stuck in standby

                                          Originally posted by isherwood
                                          No voltage at any of the CON2F pins.

                                          I think one of those pins, namely SW would be "Inverter On" and the voltage is missing.
                                          Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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