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  • Gootch46
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2015
    • 57
    • USA

    #1

    Samsung PN58B650s1fxza clicking

    Hey there all Hope everyones well, Ok I know this tv has been gone over in the threads a couiple of times and trust me I have read them over and over and am still having issues with this tv . It does the norm clicks when you turn it on, cycles through shuts off then clicks back on, I get NO pictures (sound: havent hooked any source to it yet) I have tried the unplugging of the Y main, does same thing. I have tried the X-main off ,still nothing. Both unplugged, nothing.
    I have tried the PSon and the VSon jumped with a resistor, pins 3 & 4 jumped on logic board and lvds cable off, and still nothing. If I unplug power to main/video board with said adjustments made, TV doesnt even come on. I ested the Y-buffer boards didnt seem to show a short there .
    ok I have tested the V's on the plugs and will list them . Can someone please help me to see what I am doing wrong here . I am just a hobbyist here and couldnt pass up a free 58" tv. Thank you in advance. Hopefully we can figure this thing out.

    Voltages on the plugs
    PwB to Y-Main are as follows Panel states (VS 202v) (VA 55v) (VSC -190) (Ve 95 )

    VS--- Peaks at 200v then settles at 193v
    VS--- Peaks at 200v then also settles at 193v
    GND--0v
    GND--0V
    VCC-- 14.96v (supposed to be 15v)
    GND--0v
    GND--0v
    VA--- Peaks at 56v settles at 53v
    VA--- Peaks at 56v settles at 53v

    Pwb To X-Main

    VS--- 193v (peaks at 202 before drop)
    VS--- 193v (peaks at 202 before drop)
    GND--0v
    GND--0v
    Vcc---14.96v

    Pwb to Main Board

    AcDet-- 4.4v
    15v---- 14.94v
    GND--- 0v
    D5.3--- 5.15v
    D5.3--- 5.15v
    GND---0v
    GND---0v
    Vamp--18.02v
    GND--- 0v
    stby--- 5.15v
    VSon-- 3.21v
    PSon---3.26v

    Pwb to Logic board

    VSon---3.216v
    PSon---3.26v
    GND---0v
    GND---0v

    The Va test point is 193v
    The VS test point is 53v

    Hope this Helps or if you need other readings let me know, Thank you in advance for looking into this with me.



    The pictures are the exact same tv and were borrowed from MyEvolution . Thank you for those.
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  • Gootch46
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2015
    • 57
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Samsung PN58B650s1fxza clicking

    UPDATE*
    Throwing a main board at it, Will let you know the effect. Thanks for the help.

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    • mmartell
      Badcaps Legend
      • Oct 2013
      • 3189
      • Canada

      #3
      Re: Samsung PN58B650s1fxza clicking

      Try heating the mainboard thoroughly with a hair dryer and see if symptoms change. There is a known fault in the "A" series where a surface mount tantalum cap fails and causes similar problems - don't know if it carried over at to "B" series. Check the board for any NEx AS7 caps and if present solder a 47uf 10v electrolytic across them. Good luck.

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      • Gootch46
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2015
        • 57
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Samsung PN58B650s1fxza clicking

        Thank you for the info!!!! As I was looking acrossboard for the Cap you spoke of I found this Lil spot and took a picture of it. It is located at the far right , top of main board by the screw hole.
        I circled it in red on main board.
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        Last edited by Gootch46; 12-07-2016, 07:07 AM.

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        • Andrew F. Ali
          Badcaps Legend
          • Jan 2014
          • 2450
          • Trinidad & Tobago

          #5
          Re: Samsung PN58B650s1fxza clicking

          That doesn't look good...That is your problem right there...If you can replace it that should fix your issue...if not get the new Main Bd as first intended.

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          • Gootch46
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2015
            • 57
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Samsung PN58B650s1fxza clicking

            Yea looks like it, Thanks. I am trying to read numbers off it, can't quite make out the bottom numbers and letters. I am going to try and fix anyway and see what happens,maybe get a working board out of it, Thanks.

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            • ReeceyBurger123
              Never Give Up !
              • May 2014
              • 7325
              • Britain

              #7
              Re: Samsung PN58B650s1fxza clicking

              Ic numbers:

              https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=z1..._AUIBygA&dpr=1
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              • Gootch46
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2015
                • 57
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Samsung PN58B650s1fxza clicking

                Thanks man

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                • ReeceyBurger123
                  Never Give Up !
                  • May 2014
                  • 7325
                  • Britain

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung PN58B650s1fxza clicking

                  Yeah and merry christmas to you as well......
                  Last edited by ReeceyBurger123; 12-07-2016, 09:03 AM.
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                  • budm
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                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung PN58B650s1fxza clicking

                    Check the resistance between LX pin and GND to see if it shows low resistance (<100 Ohms).
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • Andrew F. Ali
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 2450
                      • Trinidad & Tobago

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung PN58B650s1fxza clicking

                      Originally posted by ReeceyBurger123
                      Yeah and merry christmas to you as well......
                      +1

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                      • ReeceyBurger123
                        Never Give Up !
                        • May 2014
                        • 7325
                        • Britain

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung PN58B650s1fxza clicking

                        Originally posted by Andrew F. Ali
                        +1
                        +1 2 op
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                        • ReeceyBurger123
                          Never Give Up !
                          • May 2014
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                          #13
                          Re: Samsung PN58B650s1fxza clicking

                          Op hopefully we can fix this Tv together and is doesn't catch a flame and burn your place down, please keep us updated
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                          • Gootch46
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                            • Oct 2015
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                            #14
                            Re: Samsung PN58B650s1fxza clicking

                            yea hopefully we dont get it right to the EDGE and not get it right.......

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                            • ReeceyBurger123
                              Never Give Up !
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                              #15
                              Re: Samsung PN58B650s1fxza clicking

                              Ohh no he knows my second name what am I going to do help help, good job Im always on the EDGE of violently snapping
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                              • Gootch46
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                                • Oct 2015
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                                #16
                                Re: Samsung PN58B650s1fxza clicking

                                Hey kid with your satan references and second names ? I'm here to try and fix a tv not Slap the wet from behind your ears , so if your not here to help then step the F off my posts I neither have the time nor the patience to deal with kids. Thanks so far anyway you've helped people with anything along the way now run off to your room and play.

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                                • mmartell
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Oct 2013
                                  • 3189
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                                  #17
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                                  • ReeceyBurger123
                                    Never Give Up !
                                    • May 2014
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung PN58B650s1fxza clicking

                                    Well you made the first smart ass quote towards me when I did nothing wrong on that other thread, Im here to help not argue but you did cause this
                                    Last edited by ReeceyBurger123; 12-08-2016, 05:37 AM.
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                                    • Gootch46
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                                      • Oct 2015
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung PN58B650s1fxza clicking

                                      Installed new main board and TV powers up normal of course without a picture , but all voltages are where they are supposed to be per the panel specs. I am not sure about the sound as I have no source plugged in. What would my next move be? If the picture on these plasmas wasnt so spectacular they wouldnt be worth the weight in donuts. but that is just my opinion.

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                                      • Gootch46
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                                        • Oct 2015
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung PN58B650s1fxza clicking

                                        So , do I need a source hooked to this to get an active screen or do you think this main board is bad also? It does have the normal 1 second blink and all the voltages are right where they need to be ? any suggestions? Thanks

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