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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #21
    Re: Hitachi 40HXC06U problems

    So he replaced the IC and the resistor but not the MOSFET, more likely then that his new IC is now damaged too due to the shorted out original MOSFET.
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    • ReeceyBurger123
      Never Give Up !
      • May 2014
      • 7325
      • Britain

      #22
      Re: Hitachi 40HXC06U problems

      Probably.
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      • StephenU
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Dec 2013
        • 230
        • United Kingdom

        #23
        Re: Hitachi 40HXC06U problems

        Originally posted by budm
        BTW, MOSFET Q204 is fine not shorted between Source and Drain?
        C205 is the one that blew?
        Originally posted by budm
        So he replaced the IC and the resistor but not the MOSFET, more likely then that his new IC is now damaged too due to the shorted out original MOSFET.
        Originally posted by ReeceyBurger123
        Probably.

        Here goes :

        Replaced damaged IC201 (Original part) and R272 (0.47 wirewound sourced from ebay 3W but 1W as stated in the schematics) ~ ~ BudM will this 3W / 1W difference be ok ?? ~ ~

        Power on BOOOM F100 toast.

        Went straight to the mosfet Q204 thats was toast and gone, complete short.(Yeh yeh I know school boy error. my bad..AArrrggg )

        also took out D104-D107 all shorted

        ***********

        So now ordered:

        F100 fuses - (in hand)
        Q204 Mosfet (On order)
        D104-D107 (On order)

        IC201 looks visually fine but will try a reverse diode to ground check on all pins. or might just order a new one to be on the safe side.


        Anything else I should check guys.

        Let me know what you think, and thanks for the help.


        Stephen

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        • vinceroger69
          Badcaps Legend
          • Mar 2012
          • 6714
          • uk

          #24
          Re: Hitachi 40HXC06U problems

          I would also replace the SG6742HR ic201 just too be on the safe side.

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          • StephenU
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Dec 2013
            • 230
            • United Kingdom

            #25
            Re: Hitachi 40HXC06U problems

            I'm trying to source an alternative to the one Mosfet Q204 fitted, the markings on the one that came out the board are MDF4N60 (Datasheet > http://www.datasheet-pdf.com/PDF/MDF...gnaChip-898610)

            original on schematic says FQPFN50C (http://uk.rs-online.com/web/c/semico...50464E35304326) But this is discontinued.


            Thanks

            Stephen

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            • vinceroger69
              Badcaps Legend
              • Mar 2012
              • 6714
              • uk

              #26
              Re: Hitachi 40HXC06U problems

              sorry ignore the link i found is disscountinued too
              Last edited by vinceroger69; 09-02-2016, 04:29 AM.

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              • vinceroger69
                Badcaps Legend
                • Mar 2012
                • 6714
                • uk

                #27
                Re: Hitachi 40HXC06U problems

                This is the nearest i can find too the original specs
                http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/mosfet...33393438383526
                Last edited by vinceroger69; 09-02-2016, 04:51 AM.

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                • StephenU
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 230
                  • United Kingdom

                  #28
                  Re: Hitachi 40HXC06U problems

                  Originally posted by vinceroger69
                  This is the nearest i can find too the original specs
                  http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/mosfet...33393438383526
                  went for it, thanks.


                  Stephen

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                  • vinceroger69
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 6714
                    • uk

                    #29
                    Re: Hitachi 40HXC06U problems

                    I have a rs account so went on live chat and thats what they recomended as a replacement so if wrong we will can blame them.

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: Hitachi 40HXC06U problems

                      BTW, that IC201, if the internal drive output is shorted to GND then the POWER MOSFET will not be damaged, the circuit just will not be working, but if the internal drive is shorted to the VCC (when the shorted MOSFET dumped the 300 something Volt into the Gate drive pin of the IC) which will make the output to be HIGH with steady Voltage at the output instead of high speed switching then the POWER MOSFET will blow, so I would change the IC and check all the Gate drive R/D network for damages.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • ReeceyBurger123
                        Never Give Up !
                        • May 2014
                        • 7325
                        • Britain

                        #31
                        Re: Hitachi 40HXC06U problems

                        Originally posted by budm
                        BTW, that IC201, if the internal drive output is shorted to GND then the POWER MOSFET will not be damaged, the circuit just will not be working, but if the internal drive is shorted to the VCC (when the shorted MOSFET dumped the 300 something Volt into the Gate drive pin of the IC) which will make the output to be HIGH with steady Voltage at the output instead of high speed switching then the POWER MOSFET will blow, so I would change the IC and check all the Gate drive R/D network for damages.
                        +1 check the 1uf 50v MLCC next to the controller this causes this which blows shit up ! Also if the fet fails it blows the bridge diodes too.
                        Last edited by ReeceyBurger123; 09-02-2016, 09:36 AM.
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                        • StephenU
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                          • Dec 2013
                          • 230
                          • United Kingdom

                          #32
                          Re: Hitachi 40HXC06U problems

                          UPDATE:

                          All new parts fitted >

                          F100 fuses
                          Q204 Mosfet
                          D104-D107
                          IC201

                          All seems good with the psu now but still no standby light activity, I suspect the mainboard is the issue as I had an old one (different version) and tried that and and have standby light activity, it tries to come on but, nothing, i'm sure this part is out of an old set that had corrupt flash, thats whats giving me the indication of mainbaord, i have a few of these mainboards that are faulty are they anyway of fixing them like reflashing etc or just good for parts.

                          Thanks in advance to all.


                          Stephen

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                          • vinceroger69
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 6714
                            • uk

                            #33
                            Re: Hitachi 40HXC06U problems

                            whats the original mainboard part number?

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                            • StephenU
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 230
                              • United Kingdom

                              #34
                              Re: Hitachi 40HXC06U problems

                              Originally posted by vinceroger69
                              whats the original mainboard part number?
                              17MB82 - 1a

                              23110916

                              Thanks.

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                              • vinceroger69
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 6714
                                • uk

                                #35
                                Re: Hitachi 40HXC06U problems

                                yes i thought it might be as just been reading a few threads which reece has posted in time too look for a replacement main board i guess now.

                                not sure if your board has failed complety as no led light on the tv reece has a video on a update for them but thats with a flashing led yours does not have this.
                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPCisa9BYkk
                                Last edited by vinceroger69; 09-05-2016, 09:41 AM.

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                                • ReeceyBurger123
                                  Never Give Up !
                                  • May 2014
                                  • 7325
                                  • Britain

                                  #36
                                  Re: Hitachi 40HXC06U problems

                                  Update ?
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                                  • dick_barton
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                                    • Aug 2015
                                    • 6642
                                    • Wales

                                    #37
                                    Re: Hitachi 40HXC06U problems

                                    Originally posted by vinceroger69
                                    I have a rs account so went on live chat and thats what they recomended as a replacement so if wrong we will can blame them.
                                    Hi vincerogers69
                                    cpc.co.uk
                                    http://uk.farnell.com

                                    are also good UK suppliers who are happy to take your money if you don't already use them.
                                    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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