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  • madcow007
    Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 16

    #1

    LG 70LB7100 no backlight after 2-5 min

    I have a LG 70LB7100 just a few months out of warranty. When I power the set on it works perfectly for 2-5 minutes then the backlight will go out and audio will remain. I can power cycle the tv again and backlight returns.

    The tv is currently wall mounted so I'm unable to take photos of the boards until I get some help to remove it. I was wondering if anyone could recommend some trouble shooting steps to determine if its the power supply or the LED,s.

    Thanks
  • budwich
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jul 2015
    • 3097
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: LG 70LB7100 no backlight after 2-5 min

    Put on a uniform "color" test screen (preferably white) and see if you can see any issues on the screen before it goes out.

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    • madcow007
      Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 16

      #3
      Re: LG 70LB7100 no backlight after 2-5 min

      Budwich just ran the test with a white image and I seen no distortion then at around the 3 minute mark the backlights shut off.

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      • ReeceyBurger123
        Never Give Up !
        • May 2014
        • 7325
        • Britain

        #4
        Re: LG 70LB7100 no backlight after 2-5 min

        Theres a fault likely in the Led strings possibly with the little connectors that join the Leds breaking down. Check the threads about testing the return line voltage for the Leds see if you can spot anything thats an issue.
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        • madcow007
          Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 16

          #5
          Re: LG 70LB7100 no backlight after 2-5 min

          ReeceyBurger123 thanks for the reply I finally got the set down today I can see proper 52v until shutdown the area on the pcb where the fets are located look a bit brown from the top side and it feels warm to the touch after shut down but not HOT

          Photos attached please excuse typos and wall of txt I'm on mobile.
          Attached Files

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          • jetadm123
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 2169

            #6
            Re: LG 70LB7100 no backlight after 2-5 min

            When the set is up and running, you can try heating up the fets with a hair dryer to see if you can accelerate the backlight shutting down. If you're lucky, it might be a failing fet or a bad solder joint. Otherwise, it might be as Reecey suggested.

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            • ReeceyBurger123
              Never Give Up !
              • May 2014
              • 7325
              • Britain

              #7
              Re: LG 70LB7100 no backlight after 2-5 min

              Remove the Pcb and inspect for bad solder joints in that hot area.
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              • madcow007
                Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 16

                #8
                Re: LG 70LB7100 no backlight after 2-5 min

                Thanks for the reply guys I stressed the fets with a hair dryer and it seemed to quicken the time to shutdown. I didnt see any bad solder joints the set belongs to a friend and he is impatient so he decided to order a new power supply will update when it arrives.

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                • jetadm123
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 2169

                  #9
                  Re: LG 70LB7100 no backlight after 2-5 min

                  Just a suggestion: While you're waiting for a new supply, grab a soldering iron and touch up all the joints on those mosfets with some fresh solder. If that fixes the problem, then maybe return the supply you bought?

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                  • ReeceyBurger123
                    Never Give Up !
                    • May 2014
                    • 7325
                    • Britain

                    #10
                    Re: LG 70LB7100 no backlight after 2-5 min

                    Maybe get us an image of the bottom side of the Pcb ? Sounds like cold solder joints to me would have been a good idea to do that before ordering a part IMO but your on the right track at least
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                    • thelmores
                      Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 17

                      #11
                      Re: LG 70LB7100 no backlight after 2-5 min

                      FWIW, have identical set that has same problem.

                      Replacing main and power supply did not fix problem. Almost certainly a panel issue.

                      Customer said he is going to donate the set, so we are going to see what we can learn. never disassembled panel before.....

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                      • ReeceyBurger123
                        Never Give Up !
                        • May 2014
                        • 7325
                        • Britain

                        #12
                        Re: LG 70LB7100 no backlight after 2-5 min

                        Hmm sounds like the Led string connectors or even the Leds then buddy. Is this Edge lit or full array ? Also if you take the screen apart be very care of the glass it cracks easy.
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                        • DrewBeer
                          New Member
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 1
                          • United States

                          #13
                          Re: LG 70LB7100 no backlight after 2-5 min

                          I'm glad i found this thread. Have the same problem with my 70LB7100. Just replaced the power supply, same problem, Sometimes it works for a few hours, and sometimes its a few minutes.

                          I haven't taken it down past the back panel, but i guess i might as well start digging. Did anyone get further with this problem?

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                          • Help
                            New Member
                            • Dec 2016
                            • 2
                            • Virgin Islands

                            #14
                            Re: LG 70LB7100 no backlight after 2-5 min

                            Any update to this problem?

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                            • Help
                              New Member
                              • Dec 2016
                              • 2
                              • Virgin Islands

                              #15
                              Re: LG 70LB7100 no backlight after 2-5 min

                              Did you look into the issue with lg70lb7100 no backlight when you got customer TV?

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                              • gavric
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2011
                                • 65

                                #16
                                Re: LG 70LB7100 no backlight after 2-5 min

                                Bump

                                Interested in any update to this, going thru same issue.
                                I actually opened screen up and glued up some led bulbs lenses that fell off and made bright spots on the screen and seen that one of the led strips was not lighting up. It was odd because first 8 leds were out then last 8 would work. power comes from side that is on non working leds side. Its exactly half of string 8 bulbs that are out of 16 in a row. There is 8 rows on leds. I messed with it some and led string came alive. I left tv on for a while, no problem. Tv worked for long time and all leds worked.

                                When I finally assembled tv without breaking glass tv decided to start shutting down random led strings on right side of screen only, sometimes after 15 minutes, sometimes 5, sometimes 2 minutes. Power cycling instantly turns screen nice and bright and all leds work until it acts up again. Each row of leds is separately powered by its own power input with three wires + - -, 52 VDC. Power supply looks burned up some just like poster above.

                                I did not trouble shoot power supply yet because i am so pissed of at it.
                                Anyone solved it?

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                                • bult
                                  New Member
                                  • Jun 2016
                                  • 2
                                  • Sweden

                                  #17
                                  Re: LG 70LB7100 no backlight after 2-5 min

                                  Bump!

                                  I would also know if anyone of you solved this issue with this model? I have the exactly same issue with mine. Backlight stays on for a while and then goes black. I was just about to order a new powerboard but then I stumbled upon this thread... So before i take the panel apart i would be nice to know if it is worth the effort.

                                  Thanks!

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: LG 70LB7100 no backlight after 2-5 min

                                    I would try lowing the Backlights level to as low as possible first to see if the backlights will stay on longer.
                                    Providing the pictures of the whole backside of the TV showing all the boards will also help so we can see what we are dealing with.
                                    Last edited by budm; 10-09-2018, 10:16 AM.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • truep
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Aug 2010
                                      • 373
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: LG 70LB7100 no backlight after 2-5 min

                                      As a general rule, NEVER run the backlights at 100% I set mine at 75, MAX of 80%. set it around 70% and it may work fine for a while. ( my 65" lasted 2 years till I found a new LED strip.

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: LG 70LB7100 no backlight after 2-5 min

                                        BTW, turn them down on ALL inputs.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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