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  • speedypro
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Feb 2013
    • 561
    • United Kingdom

    #1

    Dead BN44-00458B

    Normally if few caps are faulty, I normally see the standby light, in most case.

    This board is dead. No standby light. Fuses, caps and diodes are ok. AV board bad?

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  • ReeceyBurger123
    Never Give Up !
    • May 2014
    • 7325
    • Britain

    #2
    Re: Dead BN44-00458B

    Why has the photo got things in Red ? You diagnosed it ? Checked voltages ?
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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Dead BN44-00458B

      Is that your board? Any good clear straight shot picture of the bottom side of the board?
      DCV between the two legs of the main filter cap?
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • speedypro
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Feb 2013
        • 561
        • United Kingdom

        #4
        Re: Dead BN44-00458B

        Sorry, guys. I've left work. Red circles are what I've replaced with new and still dead. I'll do those tests tomorrow.
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        • ReeceyBurger123
          Never Give Up !
          • May 2014
          • 7325
          • Britain

          #5
          Re: Dead BN44-00458B

          Why did you replace them though ? Did the original diodes test bad ?
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          • speedypro
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Feb 2013
            • 561
            • United Kingdom

            #6
            Re: Dead BN44-00458B

            Originally posted by ReeceyBurger123
            Why did you replace them though ? Did the original diodes test bad ?
            I thought they were short. But it turns out they are short when in circuit.
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            • ReeceyBurger123
              Never Give Up !
              • May 2014
              • 7325
              • Britain

              #7
              Re: Dead BN44-00458B

              Originally posted by speedypro
              I thought they were short. But it turns out they are short when in circuit.
              Ahh I see
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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Dead BN44-00458B

                BTW, so you do not have A5V at pin 14 of the connector CNM803 when you do not have other boards connected to it?
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                Last edited by budm; 05-10-2016, 10:16 AM.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • speedypro
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 561
                  • United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Re: Dead BN44-00458B

                  Originally posted by budm
                  Is that your board? Any good clear straight shot picture of the bottom side of the board?
                  DCV between the two legs of the main filter cap?
                  No voltage on pins of caps where the red circle is on picture above.

                  Image of reverse:
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                  • speedypro
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 561
                    • United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Re: Dead BN44-00458B

                    Originally posted by budm
                    BTW, so you do not have A5V at pin 14 of the connector CNM803 when you do not have other boards connected to it?
                    No voltage on the 450v cap's pins.
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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Dead BN44-00458B

                      Do you have 240AC between the two inner pins of the bridge rectifier?
                      If you do, then what DCV you have on the two outer pins of the bridge rectifier?
                      I would also resolder the pins of the transformers, the bridge rectifier, the legs of the devices mounted on the heatsinks.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • speedypro
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 561
                        • United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Re: Dead BN44-00458B

                        Originally posted by budm
                        Do you have 240AC between the two inner pins of the bridge rectifier?
                        If you do, then what DCV you have on the two outer pins of the bridge rectifier?
                        I would also resolder the pins of the transformers, the bridge rectifier, the legs of the devices mounted on the heatsinks.


                        Red: 338DCV
                        Yellow: 247ACV

                        Seems ok on the bridge rectifier. I have not seen any colder solder points. But can resolder. Anything else to check as 0v is going to the AV board?
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                        Last edited by speedypro; 05-12-2016, 03:32 AM.
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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Dead BN44-00458B

                          OK, now we have established that we do have main DC to run the SMPS, now we need to get the standby power supply up and running first.
                          ICS801S is the standby SMPS IC, we need to get the P/N to get the pin out to find out if we have VCC and the 338VDC to feed the standby transformer TS801S or not.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • speedypro
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 561
                            • United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Re: Dead BN44-00458B

                            Originally posted by budm
                            OK, now we have established that we do have main DC to run the SMPS, now we need to get the standby power supply up and running first.
                            ICS801S is the standby SMPS IC, we need to get the P/N to get the pin out to find out if we have VCC and the 338VDC to feed the standby transformer TS801S or not.
                            Thanks. I'll investigate from here then let you know.
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                            • vinceroger69
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 6714
                              • uk

                              #15
                              Re: Dead BN44-00458B

                              might be worth checking all these parts in the repair kit for this board
                              http://www.ohmsupplies.co.uk/REPAIR-...01-FAULTY-DEAD

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                              • speedypro
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 561
                                • United Kingdom

                                #16
                                Re: Dead BN44-00458B

                                Ok. Bought a used "working" board off eBay. Standby light comes on. Pressed to turn on, red light blinks then goes back solid red. Bad board or main board?
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                                • dick_barton
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Aug 2015
                                  • 6643
                                  • Wales

                                  #17
                                  Re: Dead BN44-00458B

                                  What voltages do you have or not have on connectors CNM803 and CNL802
                                  Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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