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  • JDC
    Badcaps Veteran
    • May 2015
    • 273
    • USA

    #21
    Re: LG 47LN5200_U: PWR, MAIN, and all LEDs replaced, no picture

    Originally posted by CapLeaker
    Those are only half of the pin outs. There are 18 of them in total. We need all of them plus the pin out name!
    However... there is no voltage going to the Tcon. no voltage there, no pic. Maybe disconnect the tcon and see if the voltage re appears on the connector.

    ON

    -.009
    12.13
    12.13
    -.01
    24.48
    -.011
    3.51
    3.51
    3.104

    OFF

    0
    .009
    .009
    0
    .006
    0
    3.55
    3.55
    0

    Attached is a diagram for the connection from the power board to the main board. It says:

    P201

    GND GND
    12V N.C.
    12V 12V
    GND GND
    24V 24V
    GND GND
    3.5V PD1M2
    3.5V PD1M1
    PWR-ON DRV-ON
    Attached Files

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    • JDC
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      • May 2015
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      #22
      Re: LG 47LN5200_U: PWR, MAIN, and all LEDs replaced, no picture

      Originally posted by dick_barton

      Edit
      Please can you provide some sharp picture of your main board which would be of help.
      Is this better?
      Attached Files

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      • JDC
        Badcaps Veteran
        • May 2015
        • 273
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        #23
        Re: LG 47LN5200_U: PWR, MAIN, and all LEDs replaced, no picture

        Originally posted by Diah
        from yours T-CON photo it show to me the left ribbon cable not correct sitting at the panel socket., take them both out and check the Gold pins of them, then reset them correct, as they labeled with hand writing they seem had story.
        Reseated, nothing out of the ordinary I could see, still no change. Thanks anyways.

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        • charis
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2016
          • 61
          • greece

          #24
          Re: LG 47LN5200_U: PWR, MAIN, and all LEDs replaced, no picture

          If your backlight start and the panel stay black is T con problem.
          Usualy this symptoms happen to samsung tv but the sound works.
          Try to heat the main processor and see if you have picture untill he cools .
          Also check the regulators near processor specially the 5v and VCC.
          If nothing happen your tcon is faulty.
          To test Tcon jump 12v from SMPS to the Tcon fuse.Disconect the LVDS cables Jump VCC 3.3v to the LVDS(CN1) connector ground pin.Aply ac to power supply, patterns of White, Red, Blue, Green
          should appear on the screen.Voltages can be read at the ribbon connector or at test locations on the board (typical 16.74V, 3.3V, -5V and 28V)
          Last edited by charis; 04-26-2016, 04:10 AM.

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          • CapLeaker
            Leaking Member
            • Dec 2014
            • 7976
            • Canada

            #25
            Re: LG 47LN5200_U: PWR, MAIN, and all LEDs replaced, no picture

            Originally posted by JDC
            ON

            -.009
            12.13
            12.13
            -.01
            24.48
            -.011
            3.51
            3.51
            3.104

            OFF

            0
            .009
            .009
            0
            .006
            0
            3.55
            3.55
            0

            Attached is a diagram for the connection from the power board to the main board. It says:

            P201

            GND GND
            12V N.C.
            12V 12V
            GND GND
            24V 24V
            GND GND
            3.5V PD1M2
            3.5V PD1M1
            PWR-ON DRV-ON
            O.k., you measured GND, 12V, 12V GND, 24V, GND, 3.5V, 3.5V and PWR-ON.
            Where are the GND, NC, 12V, GND, 24V,GND, PDIM2, PDIM1 and DRV-ON measurements?

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            • JDC
              Badcaps Veteran
              • May 2015
              • 273
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              #26
              Re: LG 47LN5200_U: PWR, MAIN, and all LEDs replaced, no picture

              Originally posted by CapLeaker
              O.k., you measured GND, 12V, 12V GND, 24V, GND, 3.5V, 3.5V and PWR-ON.
              Where are the GND, NC, 12V, GND, 24V,GND, PDIM2, PDIM1 and DRV-ON measurements?
              Yikes! I see what I did wrong now. I'll get back to you. Thank you for being patient.

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              • dick_barton
                Badcaps Legend
                • Aug 2015
                • 6642
                • Wales

                #27
                Re: LG 47LN5200_U: PWR, MAIN, and all LEDs replaced, no picture

                Did you manage to follow the wiring back from the Tcon fuse back to any component on the main board. You said earlier that the 12V on the Tcon fuse was missing?
                Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                • JDC
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • May 2015
                  • 273
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                  #28
                  Re: LG 47LN5200_U: PWR, MAIN, and all LEDs replaced, no picture

                  Originally posted by dick_barton
                  Did you manage to follow the wiring back from the Tcon fuse back to any component on the main board. You said earlier that the 12V on the Tcon fuse was missing?
                  I haven't yet, no. You are referring to the F1 fuse on the TCON?

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                  • CapLeaker
                    Leaking Member
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 7976
                    • Canada

                    #29
                    Re: LG 47LN5200_U: PWR, MAIN, and all LEDs replaced, no picture

                    yes, he is.

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                    • JDC
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • May 2015
                      • 273
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: LG 47LN5200_U: PWR, MAIN, and all LEDs replaced, no picture

                      Originally posted by CapLeaker
                      yes, he is.
                      ???
                      Last edited by JDC; 04-26-2016, 10:11 AM. Reason: Never mind.

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                      • JDC
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • May 2015
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                        #31
                        Re: LG 47LN5200_U: PWR, MAIN, and all LEDs replaced, no picture

                        While the TV is on, placing the neg. probe on either side of TCON's F1 fuse, and the pos. probe on the very first pin (on the left) on the still connected TCON cable, I get a reading a 12.13 VDC.

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                        • JDC
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                          #32
                          Re: LG 47LN5200_U: PWR, MAIN, and all LEDs replaced, no picture

                          Originally posted by charis
                          If your backlight start and the panel stay black is T con problem.
                          Usualy this symptoms happen to samsung tv but the sound works.
                          Try to heat the main processor and see if you have picture untill he cools .
                          Also check the regulators near processor specially the 5v and VCC.
                          If nothing happen your tcon is faulty.
                          To test Tcon jump 12v from SMPS to the Tcon fuse.Disconect the LVDS cables Jump VCC 3.3v to the LVDS(CN1) connector ground pin.Aply ac to power supply, patterns of White, Red, Blue, Green
                          should appear on the screen.Voltages can be read at the ribbon connector or at test locations on the board (typical 16.74V, 3.3V, -5V and 28V)
                          This is good information. I'm not sure if I'm brave enough to try it yet. Thanks!

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: LG 47LN5200_U: PWR, MAIN, and all LEDs replaced, no picture

                            LG EBT62421329 (EAX65049105(1.1)) Main Board for 47LN5200-UB
                            http://www.shopjimmy.com/lg-ebt62421...7ln5200-ub.htm

                            Is this your main board?
                            Check the resistance between BOTH ENDS the inductor L1100 to the T-CON fuse to make sure it has <1 Ohm resistance.
                            Check the DCV (ref. to chassis GND) of all 3 legs of Q409 when TV is OFF and when TV is turned ON.
                            Pictures provided by shojimmy.

                            "While the TV is on, placing the neg. probe on either side of TCON's F1 fuse, and the pos. probe on the very first pin (on the left) on the still connected TCON cable, I get a reading a 12.13 VDC."
                            BTW, the readings should be done with Black probe to the chassis GND, not on the parts.
                            Fuse shows <1 Ohm for sure?
                            Attached Files
                            Last edited by budm; 04-26-2016, 10:28 AM.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • JDC
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • May 2015
                              • 273
                              • USA

                              #34
                              Re: LG 47LN5200_U: PWR, MAIN, and all LEDs replaced, no picture

                              Originally posted by CapLeaker
                              O.k., you measured GND, 12V, 12V GND, 24V, GND, 3.5V, 3.5V and PWR-ON.
                              Where are the GND, NC, 12V, GND, 24V,GND, PDIM2, PDIM1 and DRV-ON measurements?
                              While ON:

                              GND: 0 GND: 0
                              12V: 12.13 N.C.
                              12V: 12.13 12V: 12.13
                              GND: 0 GND: 0
                              24V: 24.47 24V: 24.47
                              GND:0 GND: 0
                              3.5V: 3.52 PD1M2: -.001
                              3.5V:.52 PD1M1:.984
                              PWR-ON:3.111 DRV-ON:1.010

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                              • JDC
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                                #35
                                Re: LG 47LN5200_U: PWR, MAIN, and all LEDs replaced, no picture

                                Originally posted by budm
                                LG EBT62421329 (EAX65049105(1.1)) Main Board for 47LN5200-UB
                                http://www.shopjimmy.com/lg-ebt62421...7ln5200-ub.htm

                                Is this your main board?
                                Looks to be it.

                                Check the resistance between BOTH ENDS the inductor L1100 to the T-CON fuse to make sure it has <1 Ohm resistance.
                                See attached. Are you referring to the circled component? If so, it measures -14.44 with every combination of probe placements (wanted to be thorough). Not sure I did this right.

                                Check the DCV (ref. to chassis GND) of all 3 legs of Q409 when TV is OFF and when TV is turned ON.
                                Are you referring to IC409 on the main board? If so:

                                OFF
                                1.840 0
                                _________

                                .023

                                ON
                                3.42 0
                                ________

                                3.74

                                "While the TV is on, placing the neg. probe on either side of TCON's F1 fuse, and the pos. probe on the very first pin (on the left) on the still connected TCON cable, I get a reading a 12.13 VDC."
                                BTW, the readings should be done with Black probe to the chassis GND, not on the parts.
                                Fuse shows <1 Ohm for sure?
                                ON and OFF shows 00.3
                                Attached Files

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #36
                                  Re: LG 47LN5200_U: PWR, MAIN, and all LEDs replaced, no picture

                                  How about Q409 that have marked for you to test pin 1~3?
                                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...0&d=1461687797
                                  Last edited by budm; 04-26-2016, 12:10 PM.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #37
                                    Re: LG 47LN5200_U: PWR, MAIN, and all LEDs replaced, no picture

                                    BTW: 'Quote:
                                    Check the resistance between BOTH ENDS the inductor L1100 to the T-CON fuse to make sure it has <1 Ohm resistance.
                                    See attached. Are you referring to the circled component? If so, it measures -14.44 with every combination of probe placements (wanted to be thorough). Not sure I did this right.


                                    Do you know how to use the meter? -14.44 is what? Volt or Ohms, and are you measuring the Ohm when TV is plugged into the outlets? Is that the way you also check the fuse on the T-CON?
                                    No power should be applied to the TV when makes resistance checking.
                                    Last edited by budm; 04-26-2016, 12:14 PM.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • JDC
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • May 2015
                                      • 273
                                      • USA

                                      #38
                                      Re: LG 47LN5200_U: PWR, MAIN, and all LEDs replaced, no picture

                                      Originally posted by budm
                                      how about q409 that have marked for you to test pin 1~3?
                                      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...0&d=1461687797
                                      off

                                      .005 .006
                                      0

                                      on

                                      12.11 1.784
                                      12.11

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #39
                                        Re: LG 47LN5200_U: PWR, MAIN, and all LEDs replaced, no picture

                                        Where are the pin numbers?
                                        TV off
                                        Pin 1 = ???
                                        Pin 2 = ???
                                        Pin 3 = ???

                                        TV ON
                                        Pin 1 = ???
                                        Pin 2 = ???
                                        Pin 3 = ???
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                        • JDC
                                          Badcaps Veteran
                                          • May 2015
                                          • 273
                                          • USA

                                          #40
                                          Re: LG 47LN5200_U: PWR, MAIN, and all LEDs replaced, no picture


                                          Do you know how to use the meter? -14.44 is what? Volt or Ohms, and are you measuring the Ohm when TV is plugged into the outlets? Is that the way you also check the fuse on the T-CON?
                                          No power should be applied to the TV when makes resistance checking.
                                          So when checking resistance, does that mean unplug the TV or it being in an OFF state is okay?
                                          Last edited by JDC; 04-26-2016, 01:06 PM.

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