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  • hambone1234
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    • Nov 2015
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    #1

    Sharp lc-60le650u lightning strike; will not power on

    I am trying to diagnose a Sharp LC-60LE650U. This TV was mounted outside under a porch and previously working. A lighting strike on the house took out a bunch of AV equipment including this TV. The TV will not power on at all. I have verified the fuse and checked some of the pins going to the main board for voltage. Most read around 46Volts with a couple at 3-4 Volts. There are 24 pins on the plug and I am not sure about the orientation as to which one is "one" etc. I don't see any expanded CAPS or burn marks, but I have not taken the power supply board off the TV and looked underneath. Does anyone have any suggestions on where to start or what to look at? I have replaced board components on other TV's with success, but I can not find any detailed information on this model.

    Thanks,
    Last edited by hambone1234; 11-06-2015, 05:01 PM. Reason: Title edit
  • freakaftr8
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    • Oct 2012
    • 3743
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    #2
    Re: Sharp lc-60le650u lightning strike; will not power on

    First of all we need to verify if you are getting voltage at the power supply PFC circuit. On the large capacitors on the primary side what are you getting for dc voltage across the negative and positive lead? Also 46 volts on the mainboard does not sound right are you sure you're monitoring on DC voltage? And of course a clear picture of the power supply would help front and back
    Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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    • hambone1234
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      #3
      Re: Sharp lc-60le650u lightning strike; will not power on

      I am reading 172 VDC across both the long big caps on the bottom of the picture.



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      • freakaftr8
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        • Oct 2012
        • 3743
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        #4
        Re: Sharp lc-60le650u lightning strike; will not power on

        Ok what are you getting for dc voltage on pd-24 for standby voltage? This pin is the top pin on the right farthest from the black wires you can probe it from the top of the board.
        Last edited by freakaftr8; 11-07-2015, 12:14 AM.
        Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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        • hambone1234
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          • Nov 2015
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          #5
          Re: Sharp lc-60le650u lightning strike; will not power on

          As of right now none of the pins have any voltage. I used the negative on the capacitor for reference as I could not determine a negative pin. Initially all the tops pins had ~5VDC on them. I pressed the power button to see what change would occur and they all dropped to 0. I unplugged the set for around 15 minutes and plugged it back in and still all at 0. In general the readings I have gotten on the pins have not been consistent.

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          • freakaftr8
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            • Oct 2012
            • 3743
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            #6
            Re: Sharp lc-60le650u lightning strike; will not power on

            Something seems odd. You had no flashing error code on the TV?

            You had the board in the TV and you press the power button on the TV while you're monitoring DC voltage on the output pins and that's when everything drop to zero and now won't come back? You still have 174 volts roughly at the two capacitors?

            Also do not monitor this with the ground of your voltmeter on the ground of the capacitor use the ground lug of one of the screw holes instead
            Last edited by freakaftr8; 11-07-2015, 11:17 AM.
            Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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            • hambone1234
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              • Nov 2015
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              #7
              Re: Sharp lc-60le650u lightning strike; will not power on

              There was no error code. The TV will not power up at all. I just have the back cover off. Everything is installed right now during the checks. The screws don't provide a good reference. I can not get a solid reading from a screw to the caps. I can get readings from the negative on the cap to other misc.components. I still have the 174 on the caps.

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              • budm
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                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
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                #8
                Re: Sharp lc-60le650u lightning strike; will not power on

                When you make the DCV measurement on the seocndary (cold side) you will use GND on the connector or chassis GND.
                When you make the DCV measurement in the Hot side, you will use negative leg of the main filter cap as the GND ref point for the meter.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • johnboy1313
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 1959
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Sharp lc-60le650u lightning strike; will not power on

                  I had the 52" version of this set a while back. The PSU was fried as was the HDMI section of the main. It wound up being an expensive fix.

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                  • budm
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                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
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                    #10
                    Re: Sharp lc-60le650u lightning strike; will not power on

                    Check the DCV between the two legs of C7950B.
                    BTW, you can run the power supply board by itself to check the standby Voltage.
                    Last edited by budm; 11-07-2015, 03:11 PM.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • johnboy1313
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 1959
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Sharp lc-60le650u lightning strike; will not power on

                      Originally posted by johnboy1313
                      I had the 52" version of this set a while back. The PSU was fried as was the HDMI section of the main. It wound up being an expensive fix.
                      I should have stated, it was struck by lightning as well.

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                      • budm
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                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Sharp lc-60le650u lightning strike; will not power on

                        I will not be surprised if the HDMI section is damaged.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • hambone1234
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                          • Nov 2015
                          • 7
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Sharp lc-60le650u lightning strike; will not power on

                          The DCV between the legs of C7950B is 0. I checked C7950A as well and it is 0.

                          "When you make the DCV measurement on the secondary (cold side) you will use GND on the connector or chassis GND.
                          When you make the DCV measurement in the Hot side, you will use negative leg of the main filter cap as the GND ref point for the meter. "

                          I am not sure how to determine what is the cold side and hot side on the board.
                          Last edited by hambone1234; 11-08-2015, 11:39 AM.

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                          • budm
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                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Sharp lc-60le650u lightning strike; will not power on

                            Originally posted by hambone1234
                            The DCV between the legs of C7950B is 0. I checked C7950A as well and it is 0.

                            "When you make the DCV measurement on the secondary (cold side) you will use GND on the connector or chassis GND.
                            When you make the DCV measurement in the Hot side, you will use negative leg of the main filter cap as the GND ref point for the meter. "

                            I am not sure how to determine what is the cold side and hot side on the board.
                            OK, I will have to trace out the STBY section of the board, there may be a fusible resistor for feeding the B+ to run the STBY SMPS section.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • hambone1234
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                              • Nov 2015
                              • 7
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Sharp lc-60le650u lightning strike; will not power on

                              It looks like i could get a complete replacement power supply board for ~80.00. Is there any way to determine if any other equipment on the TV is damaged without replacing or repairing the power supply board first?

                              A refurbished model of this TV can be purchased for about 700.00. I am trying to determine if this is worth fooling with or not.

                              This is a friends TV that was going to be trashed so if I fix it I get to keep it.

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Sharp lc-60le650u lightning strike; will not power on

                                I would inspect main board around the HDMI areas really well to see if there are burnt or damages in that section. I will not be surprised if the main board is also damaged.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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