New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

[Agent24]

Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

The only thing I don't like about Hakko is their trademark color scheme. They look like kids toys.

It's certainly unmistakeable! - I don't mind it too much though, it could be worse.

The colours are OK on their professional series, but I think the FX-888 is awful due to the shape. If anything looked like a kid's toy it would be the FX-888, based on shape alone. The colours do not help.

I much prefer the shape of the 936. Nice clean edges, everything straight\flat. 90 or 45 degree angles. Black is always best for plastic in my opinion because most everything else fades or goes that horrible yellow...

[lookimback]

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That would be much nicer. Blue and yellow just don't look good together.

[tom66]

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Hakko offer many products in light grey/black versions too. Harder to get hold of though.

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The only thing I don't like about Hakko is their trademark color scheme. They look like kids toys.

[Agent24]

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No surprise there, Pace are one of the big players in soldering equipment.

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No, it's all in the gun. Pump, motor, control circuits, all in the gun. It's a really nice design, stolen from Hakko of course. They just didn't steal the Hakko quality.

[keeney123]

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The best station I found for desoldering was a Pace. We used it in production environment with four technicians. I work at this company for three and one half years and this Pace desoldering machine did not fail once. One just had to clean the glass tube with a brush put it back together and on one would go. It was a foot actuated vacuum connected to a air line with at least 90 lbs psi. When the petal was pressed the air pressure passing an orifice created the the vacuum. So the only moving part was the foot valve. There also had a heat control station for the desoldering wand. So your desolder tool does not have a separate heat control station?

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China would be out of the manufacturing business if we had a mandatory 2 year warranty.

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I looked but I didn't see anything on it.

[tom66]

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Don't you have some kind of mandatory warranty, 90 odd days in the US for parts/labour? (It's 2 years in the EU but I bought mine direct from China, sigh.)

Or you could file a complaint with your credit card company?

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The seller has a 30 day return policy, so I think I'm good. If I get a refund I'll buy the Hakko. I can say this much though, in the short period of time this thing did work I was able to get way more work done. Whatever it costs to get a good one of these, it is definitely worth the investment.

[Agent24]

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Yeah, it's definitely the motor. Even with the collection chamber removed, it still bogs down. I verified that there were no clogs anywhere. The motor will stop completely sometimes.

Bugger...

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Budm has a rework station, I have a vacuum desoldering gun.

[keeney123]

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I bought that model last month, use it about 4 times so far.
I took it apart when I received it to verify that the Line, Neutral, and GND, and the rest of the unit are put it together.
The first thing I notice is that the nylon standoff that hold the PCBA on the rear panel were all broken so the board was just sitting inside.
I notified them but did not get the response.
I replaced the standoff with better version.
The units works well for me, and the heater assembly also looks good.
Here are the pictures:
http://s807.photobucket.com/user/bud...?sort=3&page=1

BudM you should tell him where you got the better stand offs.

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Yeah, it's definitely the motor. Even with the collection chamber removed, it still bogs down. I verified that there were no clogs anywhere. The motor will stop completely sometimes.

[Agent24]

Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

The pump assembly might not be as leak-free as the real Hakko too...

That said, if it sucks solder OK most of the time, it might just be a blockage problem. Silly question but do you make sure to keep the suction on long enough to suck the solder all the way though the tip and into the collection chamber?

I am still biased towards thinking it's just trashy though, too. China is an expert at taking good designs, ripping them off, and making garbage out of them.

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The part that really gets me is that it wasn't cheap. At $180, they could have at least put a better motor in it.

[tom66]

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I hate to even have to revisit this thread and say this, but this thing is less than a month old and already has issues. The pump motor bogs down sometimes and then the suction is crap. I don't know if it's the motor itself, or just a bad connection. I haven't used it more than 10 times. I guess I'll tear it apart and see what it is. If you want one of these, I'd suggest saving up a bit more and getting a Hakko. Also, I think one where the pump is in a station rather than the gun would be better. Aoyue just lost me as a customer.

This is my past experience with Aoyue.

I bought an Aoyue 968 and had far too many issues with it. Soldering iron failure, hot air heater failure, pump noisy/shaky, etc.

Never again will I buy an Aoyue.

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I'd think an overnight soak in acetone would dissolve the flux.

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Also, I haven't encountered a need to have a station separate from the gun. What were your thoughts in that regard?

Less vibration would be the only real benefit.

I took this apart, I don't know why I didn't take pics of the internals. I know I should be banished for that. Anyway though, I'm certain it's the motor. It has no markings, just a sticker that says No. 1064. I'm going to try to return it, even if just for an exchange. If that doesn't happen, I'll try to find a replacement motor, maybe something of higher quality.