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  • shumiron
    Member
    • Jun 2015
    • 26
    • United States

    #41
    Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

    Update - I was able to get meter probes in thru the top of power connector and I do have all voltages correct when the tv is turned on. Agent24, I apologize for not giving you good information before. So it looks like PS_ON is getting a signal back from MB. It appears that I still have PS_ON and BL_ON after several seconds (even minutes). These voltages are around 3.3V.

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #42
      Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

      Well if you have PS-ON, BL-ON and all the Voltages but still no backlights then we need to find out if the Voltage for running the Inverter board is still present.
      It is time for you to up load good clear pictures of the whole back side of the TV so we can see how all the boards are connected together, and the pictures of the whole power supply board and the inverter board especially around the connectors so we can see all the pin labels.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • shumiron
        Member
        • Jun 2015
        • 26
        • United States

        #43
        Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

        i am sorry - I tagged on to this thread for a 47" Insignia, but mine is a 37". Should I start a new thread?

        TV Model is - NS-L37Q-10A
        Power Supply Bd. is - 8NE1AC9
        Main Bd. is - TQC8ZK030

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        • shumiron
          Member
          • Jun 2015
          • 26
          • United States

          #44
          Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

          Where is the inverter board on the NS-L37Q-10A?

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #45
            Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

            Originally posted by shumiron
            i am sorry - I tagged on to this thread for a 47" Insignia, but mine is a 37". Should I start a new thread?

            TV Model is - NS-L37Q-10A
            Power Supply Bd. is - 8NE1AC9
            Main Bd. is - TQC8ZK030
            Yes, and we need pictures.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • shumiron
              Member
              • Jun 2015
              • 26
              • United States

              #46
              Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

              OK. I will start a new thread with pictures.

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              • gamethriller
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 153
                • USA

                #47
                Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                Originally posted by budm
                More likely to be that commonly fail small black fuse.
                Budm same set sane problem. I set the meter to 200 ohms and the value is reading 1.1 ....is that a good reading I'm not sure. The black fuse says 15 on it.

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #48
                  Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                  1.1 Ohms, right, then it is good.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • gamethriller
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 153
                    • USA

                    #49
                    Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                    Originally posted by budm
                    1.1 Ohms, right, then it is good.
                    TV is showing all the same symptoms. Everything else is showing good values also. I have checked the white fuses they ate good also. Not sure where to move next now. I thought I was gonna get by with a easy win but once I seen the value I kinda knew it was good. Just needed the confirmation. So any advice where I should go next.....should I open the display? See if there is any obvious problems there?

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #50
                      Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                      If that fuse is bad you will not see the screen flash on for seconds, so you may have transformer problem, lamps problems, etc. I would check the resistance of the secondary side to see if they are within 3% from each others.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • gamethriller
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 153
                        • USA

                        #51
                        Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                        Originally posted by budm
                        If that fuse is bad you will not see the screen flash on for seconds, so you may have transformer problem, lamps problems, etc. I would check the resistance of the secondary side to see if they are within 3% from each others.
                        OK there is no flash no sign of black light or display with the flash light test....

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #52
                          Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                          Can you tell me all the Voltages you get at the connector of the inverter board? See post 1 on how they are listed.
                          Last edited by budm; 07-13-2015, 11:48 PM.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • PrinceHuff6
                            Member
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 10
                            • United States

                            #53
                            Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                            I am having the issue issue with My TV
                            The TV will turn on the blue led but then will not show any lights on the screen or any sound at all
                            When I power off the LED blinks red 15 times.

                            Both of the invertor boards appear to have power, no damage to the power board or the main board
                            Seen some of the Steps that were suggested with no luck

                            I have tested the small black fuse that has the 15 on it 24.5v on each side
                            I have tested the small White fuses that have the 3 on it and 25.5v each site

                            Any help will be appreciated
                            Attached Files

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                            • PrinceHuff6
                              Member
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 10
                              • United States

                              #54
                              Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                              Originally posted by budm
                              Can you tell me all the Voltages you get at the connector of the inverter board? See post 1 on how they are listed.
                              I Also checked the this and all appear correct

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #55
                                Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                                Originally posted by PrinceHuff6
                                I Also checked the this and all appear correct
                                If you have ALL DCV as shown in post 1 then you have either bad inverter board or bad lamp.
                                But did you see the backlights even flash on for seconds?
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • PrinceHuff6
                                  Member
                                  • Jul 2016
                                  • 10
                                  • United States

                                  #56
                                  Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                                  I have a bad board, I actually went back and poked around a bit more and found the issue, it was the DIM and ON/Off pin on the power supply, i think when I was going thru the first few times, I wasn't paying attention to the actual wires and in the mist of going back and fourth i noticed i was testing the same pins.
                                  I just dont get why the sound wasn't working its not connected to the Powersupply and everything was getting the correct reading (except for the 2 that are messed up)

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                                  • PrinceHuff6
                                    Member
                                    • Jul 2016
                                    • 10
                                    • United States

                                    #57
                                    Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                                    So bad news, I swapped the Power supply and getting the exact same reads, so im not sure where to go from this point

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                                    • PrinceHuff6
                                      Member
                                      • Jul 2016
                                      • 10
                                      • United States

                                      #58
                                      Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                                      I am getting the same reading on 2 different power supplies

                                      CN903 plug

                                      on/off: 0v
                                      DIM:0v
                                      12v:11.95v
                                      12v:11.95v
                                      GND:ground
                                      GND:ground
                                      GND;ground
                                      24v:24.7v
                                      24v:24.7v
                                      PS_ON:3.3v
                                      5v:4.965v
                                      5v:4.965v

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                                      • PrinceHuff6
                                        Member
                                        • Jul 2016
                                        • 10
                                        • United States

                                        #59
                                        Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                                        Going to the 2 inverter boards

                                        Master
                                        DIM:0v
                                        On/Off:0v
                                        Enable:.2.4V This doesn't have a wire
                                        GND:ground
                                        GND:ground
                                        GND:ground
                                        GND:ground
                                        GND:ground
                                        24v:24.5v
                                        24v:24.5v
                                        24v:24.5v
                                        24v:24.5v
                                        24v:24.5v


                                        Slave
                                        DIM:0v This doesn't have a wire
                                        On/Off:0v This doesn't have a wire
                                        Enable:.2.4V This doesn't have a wire
                                        GND:ground
                                        GND:ground
                                        GND:ground
                                        GND:ground
                                        GND:ground
                                        24v:24.5v
                                        24v:24.5v
                                        24v:24.5v
                                        24v:24.5v
                                        24v:24.5v
                                        Last edited by PrinceHuff6; 07-13-2016, 09:04 PM.

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                                        • budm
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Feb 2010
                                          • 40746
                                          • USA

                                          #60
                                          Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                                          The main board is not sending the BL-ON (ON/OFF)signal , or the DIM signal.
                                          Never stop learning
                                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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