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  • magicjeep
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    • Apr 2015
    • 11
    • United States

    #21
    Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

    Originally posted by budm
    That black fuse is the common failure, I have fixed so many of these CMO boards and they are just bad fuse, I used PICO II fuse (you have to bend the legs to install it) and none of the repairs come back.
    You can jump it for testing (or use 1~4.7 Ohm 1/4W resistor), the circuit draws <0.5A.
    Would this be a replacement for the fuse?
    http://www.radioshack.com/4-7k-ohm-1...l#.VTgOEv7F_dp

    If not could you direct me to the correct place. Thanks

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #22
      Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

      That is 4700 Ohms not 4.7 Ohms.

      http://www.radioshack.com/74-mf1a-b-...2Bfuse&start=4

      http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...2313-ND/700718
      Last edited by budm; 04-22-2015, 03:22 PM.
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      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

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      TV Factory reset codes listing:
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      • magicjeep
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        • Apr 2015
        • 11
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        #23
        Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

        Duh, I didn't see the k after the 4.7. So 1 of those would replace the flat square black fuse? I apologize for my newb questions but I really don't want to buy another tv and I want my kids game systems back in the basement. lol. Again thank you very much

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #24
          Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

          "So 1 of those would replace the flat square black fuse?" yes, no need to remove the old fuse either, just have good soldering skill and good iron and flux.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • magicjeep
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            • Apr 2015
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            #25
            Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

            Thanks for the help. I'm going to run over to radio shack tomorrow, if it's still open, and see if I can pick them up. Also you're not kidding about good soldering skills those things are tiny in a tinier space.


            And another duh, it's online only. I really should learn how to read.
            Last edited by magicjeep; 04-22-2015, 03:39 PM.

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            • newtothis
              Badcaps Legend
              • Mar 2013
              • 1556
              • england

              #26
              Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

              Originally posted by magicjeep
              Thanks for the help. I'm going to run over to radio shack tomorrow, if it's still open, and see if I can pick them up. Also you're not kidding about good soldering skills those things are tiny in a tinier space.
              Flux is key

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              • magicjeep
                Member
                • Apr 2015
                • 11
                • United States

                #27
                Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                What would the small white fuses be?

                http://www.newark.com/littelfuse/045...E?gross_price=
                Last edited by magicjeep; 04-22-2015, 05:40 PM.

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                  Did you check the white fuses with TV plugged in? should not be plugged in.
                  Also sometime there are flux built-up on the solder ends of the SMD component so you may have to clean the flux off first to get good readings.
                  If the white fuses are blown then you have bigger problem, please verify for sure that the white fuses are good.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • magicjeep
                    Member
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 11
                    • United States

                    #29
                    Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                    Ok here's an update. First thank you guys for the help so far. I purchased a new board and installed it today. Now when I press the power button I get a flash of "PLEAS WAIT" on the screen. After the please wait, the screen goes black and I get nothing. No sound no picture, nothing. I had 2 devices, a wiiU & directv box, plugged into the HDMI ports. I tried changing the input using the side buttons and still nothing. What should be my next step?

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                    • newtothis
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 1556
                      • england

                      #30
                      Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                      Do you have sound?

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                      • magicjeep
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                        • Apr 2015
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                        • United States

                        #31
                        Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                        Nope. I tried turning the volume up with the buttons and I got nothing. I also tried shining a light in the screen and I couldn't see anything. The only thing with the sound is I'm not sure if the devices that were plugged in were making noise. I'm going to find a dvd player and throw it on the tv.
                        Last edited by magicjeep; 05-10-2015, 08:16 AM.

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                        • shumiron
                          Member
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 26
                          • United States

                          #32
                          Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                          Please help - Insignia NS-L37Q-10A. Same symptoms except i did detect sound at one time. Turns on - 'Please Wait' - then black screen altho in the dark I can see some light at top center. no other indication that the screen is alive. I am having trouble removing back, tho. Seems like there is something attached around the I/O connectors. Do I need to remove the VGA posts?

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                          • Agent24
                            I see dead caps
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 5036
                            • New Zealand

                            #33
                            Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                            Originally posted by shumiron
                            Do I need to remove the VGA posts?
                            The little hex screw\nuts? They usually do attach to the case on things for physical support when you plug the cable it.
                            "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
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                            • shumiron
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                              • Jun 2015
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                              • United States

                              #34
                              Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                              I got the back cover off. i checked voltages on power board and only have 5 V on the two 5 V pins. All other pins show nothing. Any ideas on what may be wrong with the power board?

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                              • Agent24
                                I see dead caps
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 5036
                                • New Zealand

                                #35
                                Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                                If all you get is the 5v standby rail, it sounds like the mainboard is not sending PS_ON signal to tell the PSU to come out of standby.

                                To check if the PSU is OK, try disconnecting the PSU from the mainboard, then jumping PS_ON to +5v standby rail via a 1K resistor and see if the PSU turns on. Check the voltages again and see if they are OK.
                                "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                                -David VanHorn

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                                • shumiron
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                                  • Jun 2015
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                                  #36
                                  Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                                  OK. I will report back later today. Thanks for the info. One item of interest, tho, is that when I turn TV on the 'Please Wait' graphic appears for a few seconds then the unit is dead, altho i did hear some sound when I hooked up to XBox with HDMI.

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                                  • shumiron
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                                    • Jun 2015
                                    • 26
                                    • United States

                                    #37
                                    Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                                    I jumpered 5 V to the PS_ON and all the voltages on the power connector are correct. What next? Main Board problem?

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #38
                                      Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                                      Originally posted by shumiron
                                      OK. I will report back later today. Thanks for the info. One item of interest, tho, is that when I turn TV on the 'Please Wait' graphic appears for a few seconds then the unit is dead, altho i did hear some sound when I hooked up to XBox with HDMI.
                                      The main board did send the PS-ON, BL-ON otherwise you will not have backlights and sound. So verify that when it goes black after few seconds the PS-ON and BL-ON are still present. If there is no backlights but the sound still keeps on working then the PS-ON did not go away.
                                      Last edited by budm; 06-24-2015, 12:19 PM.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • shumiron
                                        Member
                                        • Jun 2015
                                        • 26
                                        • United States

                                        #39
                                        Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                                        Thanks, Bud. I have gone to your site with all the helpful pictures and info....plus the bootiful kitty. I need to check again tonite if the back light is completely on. I checked a couple nights ago and it seemed the light was on in a small area of the screen near the top center. I checked the power supply connector without connection to main board. I can't seem to get the meter probes to get far enuff in to the connector to contact the metal. So when I was checking voltages before the PS_ON signal wasn't getting back to the power board since I had the connector off. I will do some more testing with all connectors attached.

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                                        • budm
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Feb 2010
                                          • 40746
                                          • USA

                                          #40
                                          Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                                          This model has many different versions, so which are your boards:
                                          http://www.shopjimmy.com/catalogsear...+NS-L47Q09-10A
                                          Never stop learning
                                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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