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  • empire1138
    Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 14
    • USA

    #1

    INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

    I need help. I have a INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A with both no sound or picture. I get the light on the front to light up red when plugged in. The light will change to blue when i press the power button. No flash or flicker on screen. No imagine at all when turn off the room lights and check the screen.
    I have already replaced the power supply board. It was not producing 12 or 24 volts. The new power works. But I'm still not getting any picture or sound. The closest manual for this tv I found was one for the NS-LCD47HD-09 tv. I also unplugged the T-connector board to see if the backlight would come on but nothing at all.
    Voltages:
    CN903 plug
    on/off: 3.117v
    DIM:3.055v
    12v:11.95v
    12v:11.95v
    GND:ground
    GND:ground
    GND;ground
    24v:24.66v
    24v:24.66v
    PS_ON:4.010v
    5v:4.965v
    5v:4.965v

    Next plug:
    DIM:3.055v
    On/Off:3.117v
    Enable: No Wire
    GND:ground
    GND:ground
    GND:ground
    GND:ground
    GND:ground
    24v:24.66v
    24v:24.66v
    24v:24.66v
    24v:24.66v
    24v:24.66v

    Next Plug:
    24v:24.66v
    24v:24.66v
    24v:24.66v
    24v:24.66v
    24v:24.66v
    GND:ground
    GND:ground
    GND:ground
    GND:ground
    GND:ground
    GND:ground
    GND:ground

    Fuse on inverter broad F200:24.64v both sides

    Plug on main broad near top
    GND:ground
    3v3:3.298
    IR:3.292
    B:590.6mv
    R:2.613v
    L_S:No wire
    GND:ground
    IN:3.297
    PWR:3.295
    3v3:No wire.
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    Last edited by empire1138; 01-05-2015, 11:55 PM. Reason: Formatting
  • patrax
    Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 33
    • USA

    #2
    Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

    I have this set NS-LCD47HD-09 that has been on my bench since July I have vertical lines and close to the voltages you have .I have torn my hair out and still cannot get it to produce a picture after replacing so many caps I lost count. Replacement boards have been on in stock alert since July too ,no dice. Another BestBuy throwaway I guess I have had no luck.
    Last edited by patrax; 01-06-2015, 04:57 PM.

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #3
      Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

      Inverter boards: Check the small black fuse.
      Also check all the white fuses.
      Attached Files
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • empire1138
        Member
        • Mar 2014
        • 14
        • USA

        #4
        Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

        The two white fuse had both 24.66v on each sized.
        That little black fuse had 24.66v on one sided and on the other sized had 1.391v
        Last edited by empire1138; 01-06-2015, 06:08 PM. Reason: spelling

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #5
          Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

          That black fuse is the common failure, I have fixed so many of these CMO boards and they are just bad fuse, I used PICO II fuse (you have to bend the legs to install it) and none of the repairs come back.
          You can jump it for testing (or use 1~4.7 Ohm 1/4W resistor), the circuit draws <0.5A.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • empire1138
            Member
            • Mar 2014
            • 14
            • USA

            #6
            Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

            Ok. I will try this and update back later. Thank you.

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            • empire1138
              Member
              • Mar 2014
              • 14
              • USA

              #7
              Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

              Thank you. That was it. I was able to pull another smt fuse from another screen(broken panel) to put on this screen.

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #8
                Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                So it works now?
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • empire1138
                  Member
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 14
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                  Yes. Works Fine. I was able to watch Netflix and youtube on it. Thanks again.

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                  • magicjeep
                    Member
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 11
                    • United States

                    #10
                    Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                    I have this same tv with the same problem, no picture or sound but the power light works. Nothing looks like its swollen (?), I had a samsung tv do the same thing and I was able to replace the capacitor. Is this the fuse your talking about as a replacement
                    http://www.radioshack.com/4-7k-ohm-1...l#.VTfv7f7F_do
                    If not, could you point me in the direction to purchase one of these fuses? Thanks.

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                    • newtothis
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 1556
                      • england

                      #11
                      Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                      Originally posted by magicjeep
                      I have this same tv with the same problem, no picture or sound but the power light works. Nothing looks like its swollen (?), I had a samsung tv do the same thing and I was able to replace the capacitor. Is this the fuse your talking about as a replacement
                      http://www.radioshack.com/4-7k-ohm-1...l#.VTfv7f7F_do
                      If not, could you point me in the direction to purchase one of these fuses? Thanks.
                      Firstly have you jumped the fuse to make sure that is the issue?

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                      • magicjeep
                        Member
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 11
                        • United States

                        #12
                        Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                        No I haven't, I'm new to this whole fixing tv thing but I figured the tv hasn't worked in months and for $1 it couldn't hurt to try. I've been reading and researching both on this page and the interwebs trying to learn what I can.

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                        • newtothis
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 1556
                          • england

                          #13
                          Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                          Have a multimeter?

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                          • magicjeep
                            Member
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 11
                            • United States

                            #14
                            Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                            yes I do.

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                            • newtothis
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 1556
                              • england

                              #15
                              Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                              Ok set it to Ohms 200 will do.... test the fuse with probe at each side... What is the reading?

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                              • magicjeep
                                Member
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 11
                                • United States

                                #16
                                Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                                sorry my internet went down. The only reading I could get was 69.0

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                                  69 Ohms? It should be <1 Ohms so the fuse is bad.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • newtothis
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Mar 2013
                                    • 1556
                                    • england

                                    #18
                                    Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                                    Test the 2 white fuses too

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                                    • magicjeep
                                      Member
                                      • Apr 2015
                                      • 11
                                      • United States

                                      #19
                                      Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                                      ok. One white fuse is reading .3, the other white fuse is giving me a hard time getting a reading, like the small black fuse. The numbers flash, 84.3, 69.4... and then disappear. I did test the black fuse while the tv was powered on and all of a sudden the picture came on while the probes were on it. Don't know if that means anything.

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: INSIGNIA NS-L47Q09-10A: No Sound, No Picture

                                        More likely to be that commonly fail small black fuse.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                        Comment

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