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  • SmartSped
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    • Oct 2014
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    #1

    Vizio SV420M, Power light stuck on. No standby or picture

    Hello all. I have a Vizio SV420M that's giving me strange symptoms. When I plug it in, the power light immediately turns on, completely bypassing standby. There is no picture or backlight and it doesn't seem to react to any of the buttons. The only way I can get the white light to turn off is by unplugging it. I'm not really sure where to start on troubleshooting this thing since the problem seems odd. Any help would be appreciated. I've attached photos of the boards.
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    Last edited by SmartSped; 10-18-2014, 12:50 PM.
  • SmartSped
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    #2
    Re: Vizio SV420M, Power light stuck on. No standby or picture

    Couple more photos of the main board.
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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
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      • UK

      #3
      Re: Vizio SV420M, Power light stuck on. No standby or picture

      Is the logo light white or orange?
      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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      • SmartSped
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        • Oct 2014
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        #4
        Re: Vizio SV420M, Power light stuck on. No standby or picture

        It's white. It's not in standby at all.

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        • SmartSped
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          #5
          Re: Vizio SV420M, Power light stuck on. No standby or picture

          Does anyone have an idea on at least which board might be the problem?

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
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            #6
            Re: Vizio SV420M, Power light stuck on. No standby or picture

            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...7&d=1413657824
            What DC voltages do you have on those pins? At this point I expect the main board.
            Shopjimmy sells EEPROM so that can be a suspect.
            http://www.shopjimmy.com/catalogsear...izio+SV420M%2C
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

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            TV Factory reset codes listing:
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            • SmartSped
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              • Oct 2014
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              #7
              Re: Vizio SV420M, Power light stuck on. No standby or picture

              The 5volt is supplying 5 volts but I have nothing on the 12v lines. But I'm guessing that's normal right?

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
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                #8
                Re: Vizio SV420M, Power light stuck on. No standby or picture

                The 12VDC will not be present until the main board sends out the PS_ON (>2.5VDC, when power switch is activated) signal to turn on the 12V power supply, and the PFC Voltage booster circuit to supply the voltage to run the inverter circuit.
                The 12V is supplied through the switched MOSFET Q910.
                http://www.shopjimmy.com/media/catal...810-bottom.jpg

                If the PS_ON is present, then you should also see>350VDC on the two legs of the main filter cap if the PFC is working.
                Last edited by budm; 10-20-2014, 05:05 PM.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • ecking767
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Oct 2009
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                  #9
                  Re: Vizio SV420M, Power light stuck on. No standby or picture

                  Originally posted by SmartSped
                  The 5volt is supplying 5 volts but I have nothing on the 12v lines. But I'm guessing that's normal right?
                  yes that normal +12v is for audio. do you have any other voltages coming from the power supply with main board power cable connected ? DIM, INV_ON, STATUS,
                  Last edited by ecking767; 10-20-2014, 04:56 PM.

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Vizio SV420M, Power light stuck on. No standby or picture

                    " I have nothing on the 12v lines. But I'm guessing that's normal right?"
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • SmartSped
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
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                      #11
                      Re: Vizio SV420M, Power light stuck on. No standby or picture

                      I haven't tried forcing PS_ON yet. I'm looking for a resistor. I'll let you guys know my findings afterwards.

                      But do you think with the power light already being on by default that I would even need to force PS_On in the first place?
                      Last edited by SmartSped; 10-20-2014, 05:44 PM.

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                      • ecking767
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 492
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                        #12
                        Re: Vizio SV420M, Power light stuck on. No standby or picture

                        Originally posted by SmartSped
                        I haven't tried forcing PS_ON yet. I'm looking for a resistor. I'll let you guys know my findings afterwards.

                        But do you think with the power light already being on by default that I would even need to force PS_On in the first place?
                        no dont force the power supply on, I'm trying to understand what the main board cpu is doing. this could be eeprom related, that where I will start.

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                        • SmartSped
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                          #13
                          Re: Vizio SV420M, Power light stuck on. No standby or picture

                          I'll test the DIM, INV_ON, and STATUS pins for voltage in just a bit and reply back.

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                          • SmartSped
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                            #14
                            Re: Vizio SV420M, Power light stuck on. No standby or picture

                            I disconnected each of these wires separately and I received no voltage on any of those three lines.

                            The voltages on these lines is tested from the main board side, correct?
                            Last edited by SmartSped; 10-20-2014, 07:14 PM.

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                            • ecking767
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 492
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                              #15
                              Re: Vizio SV420M, Power light stuck on. No standby or picture

                              I didn't want you to disconnect the main board power cable. you was suppose to take those measurement with the main board connected to the power supply. take those measurement from the main board side.


                              Also can you check the main board CPU temperature by placing your hand on the heat-sink with the power cord plug in?

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                              • SmartSped
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                                #16
                                Re: Vizio SV420M, Power light stuck on. No standby or picture

                                I took voltage reading with everything connected. Still no voltage on those 3 lines. CPU heat sink is fairly warm.

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Vizio SV420M, Power light stuck on. No standby or picture

                                  Well what do you get on the PS_ON pin? More likely the main board problem.
                                  Last edited by budm; 10-20-2014, 08:38 PM.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • ecking767
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Oct 2009
                                    • 492
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Vizio SV420M, Power light stuck on. No standby or picture

                                    If you have soldering tools, replace the eeprom chip or replace the whole main board.

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                                    • SmartSped
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                                      • Oct 2014
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Vizio SV420M, Power light stuck on. No standby or picture

                                      I tested the PS_ON which I'm guessing is the one labeled ON/OFF in this case. I get a couple of volts from it.

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Vizio SV420M, Power light stuck on. No standby or picture

                                        OK, so the PS_ON is there which make sense since the VIZIO LOGO does turns white but you have no control to turn the TV off, you also do not have INV_ON signal either, so I would say you have main board problem.
                                        Another problem is that you do not have 12V either even though the PS_ON is present.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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