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  • shawnunder7
    Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 14
    • USA

    #1

    akai lct3201ad won't power on

    Hello all,

    I have an akai lct3201ad tv with a few issues. I had it working a while back, as I replaced a few caps on the mainboard and power board. It randomly stopped working and had no lights, so I decided to get a brand new power board which didn't remedy the issue. After that, I decided to get a new mainboard, which I installed this morning and it was working just fine. I had HDMI input working for a bout half an hour, and accidentally pressed the source button, and it went from HDMI, to DTV, and then to the next selection, which was a black screen. I tried powering it off, but it wouldn't turn off either. Pulled power left it alone for a few minutes, plugged back in, stanby light came on, power on, green light came on could hear dvd drive power on, but no picture on screen. There's no backlight, no boot animation nothing. It also doesn't power off at all either. What should I look at next to get this thing going
  • shawnunder7
    Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 14
    • USA

    #2
    Re: akai lct3201ad won't power on

    UPDATE: I tested the Voltage, and everything seems to check out, except the 25V, it's around 30-31 when powered on. The 5V standby reads 0 but the 5V Power is at 5. Should I be concerned that the 25v line is giving around 30v?

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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #3
      Re: akai lct3201ad won't power on

      Could be a concern.
      Are you using a digital meter?
      Are the batteries in your meter fresh?
      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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      • aaronwt6
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Apr 2013
        • 855
        • US

        #4
        Re: akai lct3201ad won't power on

        Shawn,

        I saw your post here so I figured I'd reply to it instead of on Ebay. I checked both power supplies that I have here (one of which came out of the TV that you bought the mainboard from me for) and the 25V line on both is 25.2V. Looking at the wiring that supplies both the mainboard as well as the inverters. I'd be concerned about overvoltage possibly damaging some regulators. There is some tolerance on what those can handle but 30+ volts seems pretty high to me.

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        • shawnunder7
          Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 14
          • USA

          #5
          Re: akai lct3201ad won't power on

          Originally posted by tom66
          Could be a concern.
          Are you using a digital meter?
          Are the batteries in your meter fresh?
          Yes meter is digital and the batteries are brand new.

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          • shawnunder7
            Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 14
            • USA

            #6
            Re: akai lct3201ad won't power on

            Originally posted by aaronwt6
            Shawn,

            I saw your post here so I figured I'd reply to it instead of on Ebay. I checked both power supplies that I have here (one of which came out of the TV that you bought the mainboard from me for) and the 25V line on both is 25.2V. Looking at the wiring that supplies both the mainboard as well as the inverters. I'd be concerned about overvoltage possibly damaging some regulators. There is some tolerance on what those can handle but 30+ volts seems pretty high to me.
            Hmmm, on the power board it reads 25 but on the main board it reads higher. Since I'm positive the old power board is also fine, I'll plug that one back in and give it a check to see if it's gives the same reading or not. I definitely don't want to get another main board and risk it being damaged again until I get the 25v reading the right voltage.

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: akai lct3201ad won't power on

              Can we see the pictures of this board and where the voltage is being measured?
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • shawnunder7
                Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 14
                • USA

                #8
                Re: akai lct3201ad won't power on

                Originally posted by budm
                Can we see the pictures of this board and where the voltage is being measured?
                Sure,will do when I get home!

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: akai lct3201ad won't power on

                  It looks like there are more than one version of this model:
                  http://www.shopjimmy.com/catalogsear...akai+lct3201ad
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • shawnunder7
                    Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 14
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: akai lct3201ad won't power on

                    here are some pictures of the mainboard and where i tested the voltage






                    If you need any closeups of anything, I will gladly post them!

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: akai lct3201ad won't power on

                      Power supply board (the whole board) pictures?
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • shawnunder7
                        Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 14
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: akai lct3201ad won't power on



                        Here you go

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: akai lct3201ad won't power on

                          Sorry, one more picture of the backside of the TV so I can see how all the boards are connected together.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • shawnunder7
                            Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 14
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: akai lct3201ad won't power on



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                            • shawnunder7
                              Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 14
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: akai lct3201ad won't power on

                              So, I put the old PSU back in, and things seems to be more around normal. the 24V reads between 24v on the psu itself and actually reads around 20-23 on the mainboard when powered on. Every other one checks out with corresponding voltage, so i'm also guessing the PSU was wayyy to high for the mainboard as just now it was hovering around 39-40 volts, which was even higher than before.

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: akai lct3201ad won't power on

                                I think we are having measurement problem here. Are you sure that the battery is good? I cannot see the power supply can put out 40V.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • shawnunder7
                                  Member
                                  • Oct 2014
                                  • 14
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: akai lct3201ad won't power on

                                  Originally posted by budm
                                  I think we are having measurement problem here. Are you sure that the battery is good? I cannot see the power supply can put out 40V.
                                  Yeah, battery is brand new, got it on Friday. I checked multiple times just to make sure and it puts out around 39-40 volts while the original only gives the mainboard around 23

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: akai lct3201ad won't power on

                                    BTW, dod some one work on the main board? It looks like cap CE22 was removed?
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                    Comment

                                    • shawnunder7
                                      Member
                                      • Oct 2014
                                      • 14
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: akai lct3201ad won't power on

                                      Originally posted by budm
                                      BTW, dod some one work on the main board? It looks like cap CE22 was removed?
                                      Not sure, I got it off of eBay after figuring out mine was the original issue. I'm sending it back for it to be looked at to see what's going on here.

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                                      • aaronwt6
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Apr 2013
                                        • 855
                                        • US

                                        #20
                                        Re: akai lct3201ad won't power on

                                        Originally posted by budm
                                        BTW, dod some one work on the main board? It looks like cap CE22 was removed?
                                        budm,

                                        I recapped the main board. However, there is no cap in that position from the factory. It must be for a different board version. The other 4 nearby were swollen. Board still functioned but I changed them as a precaution before I tested it.

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