Sony XR-55A80J OLED TV 5 blinks - Troubleshooting steps

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  • jason123
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    • Oct 2015
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    #81
    Originally posted by Davi.p
    damaged does not mean exactly "cracked" , need to specifiy always
    Sorry again, I'm not sure what you mean. Can you explain? Yes, if you're referring to panel, it could be bad, but there is not much that can be done - all other components are under sealed metal area - so beyond what I checked not sure more can be done.

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    • Diah
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      • Feb 2013
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      #82
      Originally posted by jason123

      Not sure what you're referring to. Can you explain more?

      Summary (correct me if I'm wrong): Problem either with TCON (it's getting the proper voltages - and replacement is on the way) or Panel (not fixable) - The best course of action is to replace the TCON and if not fixed, then it's panel. Nothing more can be done on the panel beyond the capacitors checks.

      Now when I received the TCON, I'd appreciate the help on the "pairing process" as what was mentioned with green / blue lights don't seems to correlate with my TV
      i mean the Caps area which have low R. need to measure V on them
      well even the service manual say t-con or panel.. and i think its panel.

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      • Davi.p
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        • Sep 2009
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        #83
        I was only repeating what already said, to buy a tcon from cracked screen, not from "damaged panel" , this expression is too vague, one can receive a bad diagnose of bad panel from a techincian and sell the boards as good..
        Last edited by Davi.p; Yesterday, 01:27 PM.

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        • jason123
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          #84
          Originally posted by Diah

          i mean the Caps area which have low R. need to measure V on them
          well even the service manual say t-con or panel.. and i think its panel.
          So say 19v evdd, the resistance of ~200ohm that's less than 100mA... that seems reasonable. Why would you think they're too low?

          Voltage at black connector is roughly 19v, but at the caps that are low, voltage is 1.2v or so... not sure if tcon is limiting power, or if that's expected? Without schematic I guess it's tough for me to assess?
          Last edited by jason123; Yesterday, 01:41 PM.

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          • jason123
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            #85
            Originally posted by Davi.p
            I was only repeating what already said, to buy a tcon from cracked screen, not from "damaged panel" , this expression is too vague, one can receive a wrong diagnose of bad panel from a technician and sell the boards as good..
            Not like you can trust what any of the sellers say!! Sellers lie all the time... they can say "brand new" for a quick sale...so none are trustworthy....the majority say brand new tv and screen damaged during shipping. .. how can you suspect an issue there? it's always 50/50 ... not many available anyway
            Last edited by jason123; Yesterday, 01:48 PM.

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            • Diah
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              #86
              Originally posted by jason123

              So say 19v evdd, the resistance of ~200ohm that's less than 100mA... that seems reasonable. Why would you think they're too low?

              Voltage at black connector is roughly 19v, but at the caps that are low, voltage is 1.2v or so... not sure if tcon is limiting power, or if that's expected? Without schematic I guess it's tough for me to assess?
              you have another 3 EVSS on buffer boards.. compare them then you know why i said panel

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              • jason123
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                #87
                Originally posted by Diah

                you have another 3 EVSS on buffer boards.. compare them then you know why i said panel
                Lol... when did you know it was 100% panel? We should have stopped at that point, right? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the help, but I wanted to know if it's TCON Or Panel. If Panel, it's trash as not fixable

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                • Diah
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by jason123

                  Lol... when did you know it was 100% panel? We should have stopped at that point, right? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the help, but I wanted to know if it's TCON Or Panel. If Panel, it's trash as not fixable
                  i wrote at post #13 99,8% Panel.. are you mad because of 0,1% lol.. and i never suggest to try boards... my wish for you and others i am wrong.

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                  • jason123
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Diah

                    i wrote at post #13 99,8% Panel.. are you mad because of 0,1% lol.. and i never suggest to try boards... my wish for you and others i am wrong.
                    No, I am not mad at all...again I appreciate the help... but when we got a lit panel and no hot spots on panel when bypassing error detection, I thought we're still hopeful.

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                    • Diah
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by jason123

                      No, I am not mad at all...again I appreciate the help... but when we got a lit panel and no hot spots on panel when bypassing error detection, I thought we're still hopeful.
                      for you and other maybe... on Buffer boards there are COFs and EPROM with VCC 3.3V.. EVSS which we called are belong to EVDD which PSU supply it.. they are running round the panel .. any break or short at cell raw T-CON driver boards will register it as error.. we talked on this before..

                      Display lit dim white this is first time i saw over OLED.. but it could EPROM damaged or its VCC.. if you try other T-CON and the issue same... don't trash it.. just cut the metal over buffer boards we will fix it.
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                      • Diah
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                        #91
                        but you said you never saw white LED at front... the IR section and LED have one light sensor , take look at this boards

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                        • jason123
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                          #92
                          Originally posted by Diah
                          but you said you never saw white LED at front... the IR section and LED have one light sensor , take look at this boards
                          No before we started the troubleshooting the TV would start with White LED then turn to 5 blinking red (2 separate LEDS) not sure what i did, but white no longer turns on now

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                          • Diah
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                            #93
                            Originally posted by jason123

                            No before we started the troubleshooting the TV would start with White LED then turn to 5 blinking red (2 separate LEDS) not sure what i did, but white no longer turns on now
                            by standalone test of course it will not, cause MB disconnected... but by DIY t-CON error pins.. it should lit on specially after the reset you did, check the Kabel as its like ribbon one from both side

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                            • jason123
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                              #94
                              I checked the continuity on the cable - seems ok.

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                              • jason123
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                                #95
                                Originally posted by Diah

                                you have another 3 EVSS on buffer boards.. compare them then you know why i said panel
                                So out of curiosity, I measured the voltage across the exposed capacitors on the panel. Help me understand the result. I'm getting almost an exact mirror from the left 2 to the right 2. So if there is a short, I would expect to see something different? What in these results tells you it's a panel problem? Again, just trying to understand your reasoning
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                                • Diah
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                                  #96
                                  its may mean many things, buffer boards ( could be fixed ) or gate Transistor shorted inside the glass (rubbish)

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                                  • jason123
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                                    #97
                                    Originally posted by Diah
                                    its may mean many things, buffer boards ( could be fixed ) or gate Transistor shorted inside the glass (rubbish)
                                    But not tcon... right?

                                    And what in the reading is telling you something is indeed wrong in the panel? What should the reading be? You said compare and you'll see it's panel. Trying to understand that statement
                                    Thanks

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                                    • Davi.p
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                                      #98
                                      Remember when the tcon arrives and if you test the set succesfully, don't close the set''s back, i will explain later

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