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  • daniel5
    Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 29
    • United States

    #21
    Re: Visio VL470M No Picture

    Originally posted by budm
    Just for testing purpose, you can use 5A axial lead fuse, or car fuse for now
    I should have a bussmann fuse laying around somewhere. I will try that this evening and see what happens. If that works, what would be the next step in testing?

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    • vinceroger69
      Badcaps Legend
      • Mar 2012
      • 6714
      • uk

      #22
      Re: Visio VL470M No Picture

      im still trying to find a replacement fuse in a link for you what budm is suggesting is while your waiting for a fuse to come use a fuse you have if it doesnt blow your probably fine just to replace it if it does blow theres a short on your board somewhere and may have to order more parts or a replacement board.

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      • daniel5
        Member
        • Jul 2014
        • 29
        • United States

        #23
        Re: Visio VL470M No Picture

        Thanks vinceroger69 and BudM for all the help! It is greatly appreciated! I am prepared to order additional parts as necessary, treating this as one of my many learning projects.

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        • vinceroger69
          Badcaps Legend
          • Mar 2012
          • 6714
          • uk

          #24
          Re: Visio VL470M No Picture

          some mainboards imo just cant be repaired economically or need special tools so even for the best engineers a board swap is some times needed.

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          • daniel5
            Member
            • Jul 2014
            • 29
            • United States

            #25
            Re: Visio VL470M No Picture

            Thanks, I will keep that in mind. ShopJimmy does not have my mainboard in stock. I will try the car fuse tonight and continue reading/watching youtube vids to see what else I can check to find a solution to the problem. This is my first tv electronic project and it has become very intriguing.

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            • vinceroger69
              Badcaps Legend
              • Mar 2012
              • 6714
              • uk

              #26
              Re: Visio VL470M No Picture

              well untill you try the fuse you will never no it maybe a nice easy fix.

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              • daniel5
                Member
                • Jul 2014
                • 29
                • United States

                #27
                Re: Visio VL470M No Picture

                I soldered a 5a fuse to the faulty fuse and was able to get power to additional parts of the board(THANKS BUDM). I am getting correct voltage out of the powerboard. I checked all of the 3 pin regs and all seemed to have correct voltage with exception to the following:

                U6
                1117
                pin 1 = 6.88
                pin 2 = 8.14
                pin 3 = 12.23

                U4
                1117
                pin 1 = 0
                pin 2 = 1.24
                pin 3 = 3.31

                TU4
                1122
                pin 1 = 0
                pin 2 = 0
                pin 3 = 0.13

                U33 next to the main rail is a 4 pin(ea. side) the bottom side has 11.76/12.23/11.76/12.23 but the top has no voltage.

                The sensor connector has (right to left) 1.20/5.13/0/0

                I'm not getting any voltage from the main back to the inverter-on and the standby. So right now when I plug the tv in the vizio light on the front goes straight to white with no orange standby.

                Anything standout to anyone?

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: Visio VL470M No Picture

                  So are you getting 24VDC at the inverter, and do you also get PS_ON, BL_ON signals?
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • daniel5
                    Member
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 29
                    • United States

                    #29
                    Re: Visio VL470M No Picture

                    No. In the attached pic, the only voltage I'm getting is about 1.76 on the 4th pin starting at the far left. That pin does not have a description.
                    Attached Files
                    Last edited by daniel5; 07-22-2014, 05:55 AM. Reason: added info

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: Visio VL470M No Picture

                      Can you remove the connectors so I can see the labeling of each pin of the connectors? The wires are in the way.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #31
                        Re: Visio VL470M No Picture

                        BTW, what voltage do you get now on these two ICs that you were getting 0V before?:
                        U6
                        1117
                        pin 1 = 0.00
                        pin 2 = 0.00
                        pin 3 = 0.00
                        tab = 0.00

                        U8
                        7805CT
                        RAE947G
                        pin 1 = 0.00
                        pin 2 = 0.00
                        pin 3 = 0.00
                        tab = 0.00
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • daniel5
                          Member
                          • Jul 2014
                          • 29
                          • United States

                          #32
                          Re: Visio VL470M No Picture

                          U6
                          1117
                          pin 1 = 6.88
                          pin 2 = 8.14
                          pin 3 = 12.23

                          U8
                          7805CT
                          RAE947G
                          pin 1 = 5.01
                          pin 2 = 0.00
                          pin 3 = 12.23

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                          • daniel5
                            Member
                            • Jul 2014
                            • 29
                            • United States

                            #33
                            Re: Visio VL470M No Picture

                            Is there somewhere that I can download the schematics for my Vizio VL470M? How else do I determine the required voltages of the regulators?

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #34
                              Re: Visio VL470M No Picture

                              "U6
                              1117
                              pin 1 = 6.88
                              pin 2 = 8.14
                              pin 3 = 12.23

                              U8
                              7805CT
                              RAE947G
                              pin 1 = 5.01
                              pin 2 = 0.00
                              pin 3 = 12.23"

                              They are OK.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • daniel5
                                Member
                                • Jul 2014
                                • 29
                                • United States

                                #35
                                Re: Visio VL470M No Picture

                                Any ideas of what to test next?

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                                • daniel5
                                  Member
                                  • Jul 2014
                                  • 29
                                  • United States

                                  #36
                                  Re: Visio VL470M No Picture

                                  Originally posted by budm
                                  Can you remove the connectors so I can see the labeling of each pin of the connectors? The wires are in the way.
                                  sorry BudM, didn't see that post. Here is a new pic without the connectors.
                                  Attached Files

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #37
                                    Re: Visio VL470M No Picture

                                    OK, check the DC voltage on the ON/OFF (PS_ON), INV_ON (BL_ON: Backlights ON) using black probe on the chassis, red probe on the pin, check when TV is OFF and when TV is ON.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • daniel5
                                      Member
                                      • Jul 2014
                                      • 29
                                      • United States

                                      #38
                                      Re: Visio VL470M No Picture

                                      BudM, See attached image for the requested voltages.
                                      Attached Files

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                                      • vinceroger69
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Mar 2012
                                        • 6714
                                        • uk

                                        #39
                                        Re: Visio VL470M No Picture

                                        have you tested this with or without the connector from the main board being in the socket?

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                                        • daniel5
                                          Member
                                          • Jul 2014
                                          • 29
                                          • United States

                                          #40
                                          Re: Visio VL470M No Picture

                                          ON = with connectors from mainboard in socket

                                          OFF = without both connectors

                                          The reason I tested without both connectors is that when I plug the tv in, it is not in standby mode.

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