32" Element LCD Model ELEFW327 won't power on

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  • MisterD
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Oct 2012
    • 668
    • United States

    #1

    32" Element LCD Model ELEFW327 won't power on

    Has standby light but won't power on, here are some pictures of the main board which includes the power supply, the rail connector with voltages measured are written on in one of these pics on paper so they can be compared with the pictures of the connector.

    I checked voltage across the main capacitor and got 168 VDC, the two diodes side by side top one (D89) has 102.8 VDC on the cathode and the bottom one ( D88) has zero voltage, the anode end of the bottom diode (D88) appears to be going to the what appears to be the inverter transformer.

    PS_ON STBY are not labeled on the board so I'm assuming that the far right red wire at 4.95V is STBY and the other pins with 1.89 or .05 could be PS-ON not being for sure, I did not try to force on the PS with a 1K resistor but do have one. Please someone with more knowledge than myself give me some direction of what to do next, Bud M is always very helpful. Thanks
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  • Dgtech
    E. Technician
    • Apr 2009
    • 1462
    • Steeler

    #2
    Re: 32" Element LCD Model ELEFW327 won't power on

    Is this the only board? Pics of all boards, if possible.
    The strong-minded rise to the challenge of their goals,the weak-minded BECOME HATERS

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    • MisterD
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Oct 2012
      • 668
      • United States

      #3
      Re: 32" Element LCD Model ELEFW327 won't power on

      The only other board is the T-Con, here's a picture of it and the TV with the back sections removed.
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      • MisterD
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Oct 2012
        • 668
        • United States

        #4
        Re: 32" Element LCD Model ELEFW327 won't power on

        Did a close visual inspection and didn't see any bulging caps or burned/damaged components, here are some regulator types and voltage readings.

        UL1 L1117B
        Pin 1 .01 V
        Pin 2 3.3 V
        Pin3 4.96V

        UL41 LD1117A
        Pin1 1.27V
        Pin2 2.51V
        Pin3 4.95V

        UL51 LD1117A
        Pin1 .58V
        Pin2 1.83V
        Pin3 4.15V

        UT1 1117B
        Pin1 .01V
        Pin2 3.31V
        Pin3 4.95V

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        • MisterD
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Oct 2012
          • 668
          • United States

          #5
          Re: 32" Element LCD Model ELEFW327 won't power on

          I need to figure out which pins on the rail connector CN1 are PSON and STBY, I have an idea but not 100 percent sure. Is there a schematic somewhere on line? Need help please..

          Thanks in advance

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          • selldoor
            Slow Learner
            • Dec 2010
            • 7870

            #6
            Re: 32" Element LCD Model ELEFW327 won't power on

            re you sure the diode has 102volts on it? It is meant to be on the "cold" side
            according to the board.

            Have you tested the diodes ( without them being powered.)
            Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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            • MisterD
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Oct 2012
              • 668
              • United States

              #7
              Re: 32" Element LCD Model ELEFW327 won't power on

              It's the two diodes near the transformer near the top left, board is labeled Hot.

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              • selldoor
                Slow Learner
                • Dec 2010
                • 7870

                #8
                Re: 32" Element LCD Model ELEFW327 won't power on

                HOT is to the left of the broad hatched white line

                Have you a picture of the back of the board

                Also it is a led tv so there is no inverter so no inverter transformer

                EDIT a couple of known possile problems
                http://www.shopjimmy.com/element-elc...eprom-only.htm

                http://www.fixya.com/support/t181741..._will_not_turn
                Last edited by selldoor; 06-27-2014, 12:25 PM.
                Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                • MisterD
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 668
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                  #9
                  Re: 32" Element LCD Model ELEFW327 won't power on

                  Yes you're right it is an LED, I wasn't thinking about no inverter transformer,Thanks for bringing that to my attention, I had my meter on chassis ground and yes had the voltage on one diode but not the other as I stated post #1 also look directly above the pair of diodes and at the very top of the board that one also has 102.3 VDC on the cathode and is on the cold side of the board.

                  I tested those 3 diodes in circuit with power off and they seem to be normal.

                  Thanks for your help.

                  PS, I sent an email to Shopjimmy about the eeprom, athough it's a slightly different model and board number, but I'm hoping that my board also has the same eeprom problem, if so I can try that next.
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                  Last edited by MisterD; 06-27-2014, 01:51 PM.

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                  • selldoor
                    Slow Learner
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 7870

                    #10
                    Re: 32" Element LCD Model ELEFW327 won't power on

                    I still dont think it should be 102 v can you trace where that top diode goes from the 102v pin. If it goes to those two electrolytic caps what voltage are they rated for?

                    Is that square chip with 2.5 legs a mosfet and is the black dot a logo or has it blown a hole.
                    Part number readable?
                    Last edited by selldoor; 06-27-2014, 04:16 PM.
                    Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                    • MisterD
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 668
                      • United States

                      #11
                      Re: 32" Element LCD Model ELEFW327 won't power on

                      Not sure if it's a mosfet, yes the black dot is a logo Not a hole. Shopjimmy is going to program a EEPROM for my board next week, I'm hoping that once I replace it that will fix my problem. Thanks again selldoor for helping. I appreciate it.

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                      • MisterD
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 668
                        • United States

                        #12
                        Re: 32" Element LCD Model ELEFW327 won't power on

                        Got EEPROM in mail today from Shopjimmy, I replaced it and now this Element TV is working great, powered right on after replacing EEPROM. Thanks to Shopjimmy for making and selling it to me. Thanks to everyone else for the help.
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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: 32" Element LCD Model ELEFW327 won't power on

                          Great news, I hate EEPROM problem because it is hard to tell if it is EEPROM is scrambled or the component failure.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • MisterD
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 668
                            • United States

                            #14
                            Re: 32" Element LCD Model ELEFW327 won't power on

                            There seems to be different main boards for this Element model, mine is board number
                            L12080047-2A04369 (ST3151A04-1) the EEPROM is identified on the board as UF11, it's located just to the left of the main processor (large chip)..

                            So if you do have this model TV and Have the symptoms where it has the standby light but will not power on and you decide to order an EEPROM, don't just order one by model number make sure it's the right one for your board, otherwise it won't work.

                            Also I want to thank selldoor for posting the link about the EEPROM problem.
                            Last edited by MisterD; 07-02-2014, 07:01 PM.

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                            • chipm
                              New Member
                              • Dec 2014
                              • 1
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: 32" Element LCD Model ELEFW327 won't power on

                              I have same TV & board and need eeprom also. How do I remove the eeprom and replace it? It is very tiny and there isn't much space around it.

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