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    Orion PDP MIS-4220 Plasma Multi Monitor 42"

    I have 2 units with picture problem. (Please view attached picture) 1 working unit in good condition, 1 unit that makes buffer boards emit smoke, 1 unit with damaged buffer board due to the previous unit swap, 1 unit with half black screen but the other half is the same condition as the first 2 units. (Total 6 units)


    Compare the actual picture from the laptop behind it to the clone display on the Plasma TV.

    So far I have done:
    1) Checked the fuses on each board, every fuse is good.

    2) Checked Vs, Va, Vscan, Vramp, Vxshelf and adjusted the potentiometers according to the label using DMM to every test point specified on the board. It was a very troubleshoot-friendly board which specifies test points clearly and a dedicated space just for the test points. The only potentiometers without specified test points are Vramp up and Vramp down. Not sure how to test these two though.

    3) Did screen test using MSCS software (came with TV), it will display a full screen colour for RED,GREEN, BLUE and WHITE. Judging by the results I think it has a problem to display white colour. Please view pictures below.

    4) Searched for the service manual but I couldn't find any online, I guess I need to contact the manufacturer (Orion PDP Co. Ltd. from Korea) and hope they send it to me.

    5) Swapped working boards (Y sustain,Main,Logic, Z sustain,Power)from a working set but stopped at Ysustain board swaps as it damaged one working TV. So now I only have one working unit and don't dare to swap to reduce losses.

    This is the view of all the boards


    6) I have let the TV on for 5 minutes, turned it off and touched the heatsinks on all boards. I notice all are warm except for a particular part on the Power board. That particular part comprises of two MOSFETs. I haven't tested these MOSFETs thoroughly as I got proper Va and Vs so I thought it was unnecessary.






    I managed to get 2 units with the stated conditions above.

    Let me describe the TV's current condition
    -When turned on, LEDs blink, I can hear two clicks, fans spin and then the screen lights up (screen will be dark if there are no inputs)
    - using the MCSC software I can control the TV to turn it off and on.

    I haven't swapped the buffer boards as I thought it was unnecessary. I am thinking that maybe the main board is faulty so I am arranging to get spare boards from the UK. But I am still not very sure that is the source of the problem.

    Any ideas or comments, anyone?
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    #2
    Re: Orion PDP MIS-4220 Plasma Multi Monitor 42"

    I have also searched for bad caps on the boards..none so far visually

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      #3
      Re: Orion PDP MIS-4220 Plasma Multi Monitor 42"

      I got the troubleshooting manual for this model after purchasing some parts in the UK. I will share it here to help anyone in the future.

      The problems stated above were solved after swapping with good Y-SUS Boards. I am in the process of searching for the boards now. Apparently the Y-SUS boards I had were slightly damaged.

      Some of the PDPs were showing a good display when i exchanged the Y-SUS board but upon checking the Vs were over 413V and Va more than 180V. I quickly turned it off to prevent further damage. The reason for this is still unknown as I have swapped other working Power Board to the PDP but it still gives out abnormal voltage.

      http://www.ronnyrtg.com/docs/Orion M...Manual.zip.001

      http://www.ronnyrtg.com/docs/Orion M...Manual.zip.002

      http://www.ronnyrtg.com/docs/Orion M...Manual.zip.003

      http://www.ronnyrtg.com/docs/Orion M...Manual.zip.004

      http://www.ronnyrtg.com/docs/Orion M...Manual.zip.005

      http://www.ronnyrtg.com/docs/Orion M...Manual.zip.006

      http://www.ronnyrtg.com/docs/Orion M...Manual.zip.007

      http://www.ronnyrtg.com/docs/Orion M...Manual.zip.008

      http://www.ronnyrtg.com/docs/Orion M...Manual.zip.009

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        #4
        Re: Orion PDP MIS-4220 Plasma Multi Monitor 42"

        Were you perhaps testing Vs/Va on AC volts? Va that high would immediately kill the plasma panel with no survivors.
        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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          #5
          Re: Orion PDP MIS-4220 Plasma Multi Monitor 42"

          I'm sure it wasn't the wrong settings on the DMM as I was simultaneously checking other PDPs with correct voltage. By the way, upon inspection of the scan boards I found some capacitors surrounded by grey dust. It might shed a light about some PDPs emitting smoke. However I am having problems to identify the Voltage Rating and the Capacitance as searching for the numbers on the internet did not return anything useful. Attached below is the picture of the greyish dust surrounding the aluminum capacitors.

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            #6
            Re: Orion PDP MIS-4220 Plasma Multi Monitor 42"

            Va is over 3 x its nominal rating.
            Vs is over 2 x its nominal rating.

            Both of these faults would lead to extreme damage to parts of the module.
            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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              #7
              Re: Orion PDP MIS-4220 Plasma Multi Monitor 42"

              Thank you for the advice, thank goodness the PDPs are not damaged due to the abnormal voltage.
              Referring to the numbers printed on the capacitor,I tried googling 62284 and Z5159 I was unable to find anything related to capacitors. Can anyone advise me on how to identify this capacitor? I am guessing the number 33 had to do with something like 33uF but I am not sure.
              Last edited by ronnyrtg; 07-10-2014, 02:19 AM.

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                #8
                Re: Orion PDP MIS-4220 Plasma Multi Monitor 42"

                I am seriously confused. You say the TV was working during this? There are capacitors on the Y-drive board that are ~250V rated. 413V across them would lead to violent venting. So I am not sure I can trust your results.
                Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                  #9
                  Re: Orion PDP MIS-4220 Plasma Multi Monitor 42"

                  Yes you are right tom66 I guess I made a mistake about the DMM settings as the settings were changed when we were using it and that led to the high voltage reading. The AC and DC settings were quite close to each other

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                    #10
                    Re: Orion PDP MIS-4220 Plasma Multi Monitor 42"

                    Hi ronnyrtg,
                    Do you have time to share again the troubleshooting manual for this model?
                    Regards,
                    mister_rf

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                      #11
                      Re: Orion PDP MIS-4220 Plasma Multi Monitor 42"

                      Hi mister_rf

                      I have uploaded the file again here

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                        #12
                        Re: Orion PDP MIS-4220 Plasma Multi Monitor 42"

                        When I open the link, there’s only AdSense sponsored links there, it seems I don’t have enough admin credentials to access that file.

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                          #13
                          Re: Orion PDP MIS-4220 Plasma Multi Monitor 42"

                          The domain has expired on the above link.
                          Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                          Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                          A working TV? How boring!

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                            #14
                            Re: Orion PDP MIS-4220 Plasma Multi Monitor 42"

                            Sorry for that, I have uploaded it again here

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                              #15
                              Re: Orion PDP MIS-4220 Plasma Multi Monitor 42"

                              Thank you for the files. I truly appreciate your time and effort. Regards,

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                                #16
                                Re: Orion PDP MIS-4220 Plasma Multi Monitor 42"

                                Hey

                                I've brought recently the Orion MIS Plasma monitors but i'm looking for the MSCS software because when i brought the screens i wasn't given it. Can anyone please help me out if you have the software or somewhere i can get it.

                                Kind regards

                                hamzahaseeb7867

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                                  #17
                                  Re: Orion PDP MIS-4220 Plasma Multi Monitor 42"

                                  HI, Sorry I don't have the software with me but you may try contacting this guy petercgrant@hotmail.co.uk as I got the Manuals from him.

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                                    #18
                                    Re: Orion PDP MIS-4220 Plasma Multi Monitor 42"

                                    Thanks for replying ronnyrtg

                                    I've found the software but i have a problem you might be able to help i'm using the video processor and have my pc giving out the image into the video processor and then from the video processor into the screen but the screens colour comes red with a mix of other colours. What do you think could be the problem?

                                    Can't seem to find a solution

                                    Thanks in advance
                                    Last edited by hamzahaseeb7867; 03-02-2017, 01:47 PM.

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                                      #19
                                      Re: Orion PDP MIS-4220 Plasma Multi Monitor 42"

                                      Can you post the picture please?

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