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  • PowerAmpFreak
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Feb 2010
    • 977
    • Sweden

    #1

    Panasonic TH-42PX80E ten blinks

    Hioyo!
    Panasonic plasma TH-42PX80E suddenly show ten blinks during start-up.
    As far as I can see, only standby PSU is on generating +5V and +13V.
    It never tries to start up VA/VS supplies.
    Never worked much on Panasonics.
    Advice?
  • Alastair E
    Chief Womble
    • Mar 2013
    • 1963
    • U.K.

    #2
    Re: Panasonic TH-42PX80E ten blinks

    Disconnect the dual-row plug near the tuner.

    Re-try starting the set up, --with the set I had, it then started up and initialised the panel--however, no picture...
    It proved the panel and drive electronics/PSU were OK in my case....
    TELEFIX

    How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
    http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
    PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #3
      Re: Panasonic TH-42PX80E ten blinks

      +13V is low for a PSU that should output +15V, are you sure about that? As sometimes there is a +12V rail derived from it this could trigger a fault.
      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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      • PowerAmpFreak
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        #4
        Re: Panasonic TH-42PX80E ten blinks

        Yep, the +15V line reads +13,3V. The +5V line is +4,98V.

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        • PowerAmpFreak
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          #5
          Re: Panasonic TH-42PX80E ten blinks

          Just found out the PFC controller IC was blown.
          So, probably it tries to startup the LLC a short time to verify and trig the protection.

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          • Alastair E
            Chief Womble
            • Mar 2013
            • 1963
            • U.K.

            #6
            Re: Panasonic TH-42PX80E ten blinks

            There was someone--one of those parts vendors on ebay selling kits for the
            PSU's of PX80's, and in one listing they had all the reference numbers of all the parts....

            Think the kit for 'em was about £40 if I recall correctly....

            edit--

            Here's whats in that kit--

            F401 F402 C443 C444 Q406 R493 R439 R448 R449 R411 IC406 D431 PR402 R436

            The kit-

            http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PANASONIC-...item2573e15747
            Last edited by Alastair E; 05-27-2014, 09:40 AM. Reason: additional
            TELEFIX

            How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
            http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
            PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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            • tom66
              EVs Rule
              • Apr 2011
              • 32560
              • UK

              #7
              Re: Panasonic TH-42PX80E ten blinks

              If the PFC bus voltage is low, then it's quite possible the 15V rail won't be able to fully regulate.
              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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              • PowerAmpFreak
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                #8
                Re: Panasonic TH-42PX80E ten blinks

                Originally posted by tom66
                If the PFC bus voltage is low, then it's quite possible the 15V rail won't be able to fully regulate.
                Nah! The +15V line is coming from the standby supply. It operates without PFC, through rectified AC, when the set is in standby.

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                • tom66
                  EVs Rule
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 32560
                  • UK

                  #9
                  Re: Panasonic TH-42PX80E ten blinks

                  Yes, but not always. It could be that when under full load (such as when the SC and A board try and run, drawing a couple amps total) this could start loading the rail excessively for a low PFC bus.

                  Most supplies are designed so that they are regulated on only one rail which is dominant. In most cases it will be the 5V rail. When the PFC voltage is low, the other rails might drift out of regulation (certain assumptions about the input voltage are normally made.)
                  Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                  For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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