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  • Francesc V.
    Tempus fugit
    • Nov 2022
    • 224
    • Catalonia

    #41
    Originally posted by lotas
    When you installed the jumper on RM15, did you have voltages at t-con approximately: VGH - (+27v), VGL - (-8v), VDD - (+3.3v), VDA - (+15v), VCOM - (+8v)?
    Maybe not looking at the right place, but I am not able to find these "basic" testing points in the T-CON you're referring to.
    Also, panel strips PCBs doesn't have any markings or labels.

    Do you see them in any of the pictures I've been attaching? (VGH, VGL..........).

    Regards,
    Francesc.


    P.S: Silly question of the day.........what if I have the feeling that everything might be screwing up when requesting for OSD activity? For instance,when pressing volume that requires pictures popup on the screen and these kind of staff, or Smart TV menu capabilities.........when nobody touches or request something from the TV........it seems to last working for long times.

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    • Davi.p
      Hobbist Tech
      • Sep 2009
      • 4286
      • Italy - Milan

      #42
      P.S: Silly question of the day.........what if I have the feeling that everything might be screwing up when requesting for OSD activity? For instance,when pressing volume that requires pictures popup on the screen and these kind of staff, or Smart TV menu capabilities.........when nobody touches or request something from the TV........it seems to last working for long times.
      this tells that the missing image could be due to bad main board (processor balls), then you have to check lvds lines before and after the image disappears, it is so if lvds signal disappears,, but the screen stand alone test tells bad screen with tcon, it can even be both damaged

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      • Francesc V.
        Tempus fugit
        • Nov 2022
        • 224
        • Catalonia

        #43
        Originally posted by Davi.p
        this tells that the missing image could be due to bad main board (processor balls), then you have to check lvds lines before and after the image disappears, it is so if lvds signal disappears,, but the screen stand alone test tells bad screen with tcon, it can even be both damaged
        Ok. Makes sense...........I've attached a picture just to be sure that you're refering to the pair of lines that are coming from the MAIN.

        Regards,
        Francesc.
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        • Davi.p
          Hobbist Tech
          • Sep 2009
          • 4286
          • Italy - Milan

          #44
          Are you meaning the 6 small marks? Yes are those, every line is composed by one pair, with final 100ohms resistor between, if you capture AC voltage across those lines, about 1,5v, then signal is present, get a pair of single hole mammuth screw clamps, and put a needle on to them and them on to tester probes..
          Last edited by Davi.p; 10-13-2024, 02:21 PM.

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          • Francesc V.
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            • Nov 2022
            • 224
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            #45
            If I would need to buy a new main board.....
            Is it enough to buy exactly the same model number? or here also mainboard eeprom needs to be programmed/swapped? (I am seeing 2 mainboards with exactly same numeration, however one comes from same model, other seems to come from a 55' panel.)

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            • Davi.p
              Hobbist Tech
              • Sep 2009
              • 4286
              • Italy - Milan

              #46
              BN94-xxxxx must match

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              • Francesc V.
                Tempus fugit
                • Nov 2022
                • 224
                • Catalonia

                #47
                Hi:

                These days I bought both mainboard and TCON..........but changing both cards didn't solve the problem. It might be that any of these cards have same problem as originals, but also it might be that panel is faulty :-))

                As long as TV works ok for some minutes until loosing some voltages I was wondering whether somehow we could force the DC-DC enable pin or something like that to "bypass" the problem.
                I am attaching the reference.........I haven't been able to find anything with this numeration.

                Regards,
                Francesc.
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                • Davi.p
                  Hobbist Tech
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 4286
                  • Italy - Milan

                  #48
                  My guess you pick the wrong cards, with the same defects, i wanna make you do a test, sorry i have no time to try it myself, no time to dedicate to tv these days, i wanna you to reinforce the 1,1v and 3,3v lines by soldering a 330/470uF 6,3/10v low esr electrolytic cap across condensers CM03, CD26, respecting the polarity, then turn on tv with everything connected..

                  PS: the test is to see if normal image lasts longer or forever..
                  Last edited by Davi.p; 10-22-2024, 03:35 PM.

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                  • Diah
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 6355
                    • Germany

                    #49
                    Originally posted by Davi.p
                    My guess you pick the wrong cards, with the same defects, i wanna make you a test, sorry i have no time to try it myself, no time to dedicate to tv these days, i wanna you to reinforce the 1,1v and 3,3v lines by soldering a 330/470uF 6,3/10v low esr electrolytic cap across condensers CM03, CD26, respecting the polarity, then turn on tv with everything connected..
                    very good PIZZA recipe, how about salt and pepper please tell how much in uf or pf? rhx

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                    • Francesc V.
                      Tempus fugit
                      • Nov 2022
                      • 224
                      • Catalonia

                      #50
                      Thank you guys for the feedback. Let's see how it ends.

                      I am uploading the t-Con picture with some voltages taken on it. I see all of them "ok" and stable.
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                      • Francesc V.
                        Tempus fugit
                        • Nov 2022
                        • 224
                        • Catalonia

                        #51
                        TV situation has improved quite a lot as long as I've removed the horizontal plastic that provides with a silver line at the bottom of the TV. I realized when I was moving TV from horizontal position to vertical position that maybe this was the piece that was touching/bending the back ribbons.
                        TV now is not fixed but image last now for hours. (at least for the last 2 days) Once image is gone, I simply switch off and on the TV and the counter resets :-)

                        To be honest, I see in good condition the 12 ribbons that come from the panel.......but it must be something there. A soft connection is somewhere.

                        Current TV situation is not that bad.........and I am afraid to get things worse I am touching this part of the TV.


                        Regards,
                        Francesc.
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                        • Davi.p
                          Hobbist Tech
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 4286
                          • Italy - Milan

                          #52
                          Unhook the panel strip boards, flip them and see accurately the point where the leftmost and rightmost glued flats attaches to the pcb, you have to see if there is a small portion of the flexy pcb where traces are uncovered by the green paint.. there could being the problem..

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                          • Francesc V.
                            Tempus fugit
                            • Nov 2022
                            • 224
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                            #53
                            Fixed. It's working for the last week. I used some tape and I've covered a few lines from the left ribbon. Image appears interlaced and blurred for about 1 minute but then, like magic, clear image appears and it lasts until TV is switched off. Let's call it a partial fix :-)

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