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  • whatusername
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Dec 2013
    • 456
    • United States

    #1

    Sanyo dp42840 cap exploded

    3rd tv from lot i plugged it in and a loud pop came from it then a smell i took off back cover and a cap top fell down i found the rest on the main board. what would make a cap explode like this on power up?
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    Last edited by whatusername; 05-10-2014, 07:55 PM.
  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 31077
    • Albion

    #2
    Re: Sanyo dp42840 cap exploded

    shorted rectifier or diode is a good place to start looking.
    it can just happen - but it's very rare.

    nice foto - cap was so crap that it blew it's bung instead of the top vent!
    i'd check if it's in parallel with the one next to it.

    and if the sleeve is intact - read the voltage & compare it to what's coming out of the board.
    Last edited by stj; 05-10-2014, 08:11 PM.

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    • whatusername
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Dec 2013
      • 456
      • United States

      #3
      Re: Sanyo dp42840 cap exploded

      now are we talking on the power supply board? because even with blown cap i still had the green power light

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Sanyo dp42840 cap exploded

        Did you inspect to see if some one else worked on before? May be wrong parts are in stalled or parts are installed wrong, connectors plugged into the wrong places, fuses are jumped with wires, etc.
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        • whatusername
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Dec 2013
          • 456
          • United States

          #5
          Re: Sanyo dp42840 cap exploded

          Originally posted by stj
          shorted rectifier or diode is a good place to start looking.
          it can just happen - but it's very rare.

          nice foto - cap was so crap that it blew it's bung instead of the top vent!
          i'd check if it's in parallel with the one next to it.

          and if the sleeve is intact - read the voltage & compare it to what's coming out of the board.
          well the issue is 1 cap is completely gone exploded that's all the paper stuff u see so i cannot identify it but the 1 that blew was smal. there are a bunch of other small ones on the board but different uf's and voltages so im in the dark here without a diagram
          Last edited by whatusername; 05-10-2014, 09:01 PM.

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          • whatusername
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Dec 2013
            • 456
            • United States

            #6
            Re: Sanyo dp42840 cap exploded

            Originally posted by budm
            Did you inspect to see if some one else worked on before? May be wrong parts are in stalled or parts are installed wrong, connectors plugged into the wrong places, fuses are jumped with wires, etc.
            no i didnt all i did was power it up n boom lol i would just replace the main board since that is what blew up but im afraid it could be an overvoltage from psu and could blow it again

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            • stj
              Great Sage 齊天大聖
              • Dec 2009
              • 31077
              • Albion

              #7
              Re: Sanyo dp42840 cap exploded

              now wait.
              are you saying that when you opened the tv,
              the can from that pile of paper wasnt in the tv?

              because if you are then someone was obviously in there before you.
              and i'v said this in another post, but a good visual inspection before you connect the power is always a good idea.

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              • whatusername
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Dec 2013
                • 456
                • United States

                #8
                Re: Sanyo dp42840 cap exploded

                no it was in there and blew up as soon as i powered it up and yes i inspected the board and it is a fact someone replaced that particular cap and either A put it in backwards or B used the wrong size cap. my only question is y didnt it blow till i plugged it in? is should have blown when he did it unless he didnt power it up afterwards? i need a schematic of that main board so i can get the cap value and get a replacement anyone have 1? chassis is a DP42840-03
                Last edited by whatusername; 05-10-2014, 10:35 PM.

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                • Agent24
                  I see dead caps
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 4976
                  • New Zealand

                  #9
                  Re: Sanyo dp42840 cap exploded

                  Maybe he used a too low voltage rated capacitor that handled it for a little while then blew up.

                  I made a circuit board with some SMD tantalum capacitors, put one backwards. Caps were rated at 16v and supply was 5v, it lasted surprisingly quite a while before it went up in smoke.
                  "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                  -David VanHorn

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                  • whatusername
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 456
                    • United States

                    #10
                    Re: Sanyo dp42840 cap exploded

                    I guess that could. B possible. I dunno. Im hoping. Someone has this schematic or maybe same tv and can tell me what cap i need

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                    • Agent24
                      I see dead caps
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 4976
                      • New Zealand

                      #11
                      Re: Sanyo dp42840 cap exploded

                      Found one from

                      It has schematic
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                      "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                      -David VanHorn

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                      • whatusername
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 456
                        • United States

                        #12
                        Re: Sanyo dp42840 cap exploded

                        yea i have seen that one and have looked at it for hours but cannot find the cap because the board in the schamatic does not resemble the actual board
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                        • whatusername
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 456
                          • United States

                          #13
                          Re: Sanyo dp42840 cap exploded

                          confusing
                          Last edited by whatusername; 05-11-2014, 08:27 AM.

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                          • tw2005
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 6458
                            • Australia

                            #14
                            Re: Sanyo dp42840 cap exploded

                            It's a N7AE board so this manual should be correct. You know it's an electrolytic not a ceramic so one of these is most likely.



                            C1660 CEXLB1C101VDN ELECT 100U M 16V
                            C1662 CEXLB1C102VDN ELECT 1000U M 16V
                            C1664 CEXLB1C101VDN ELECT 100U M 16V
                            C1666 CEXLB0J102VDN ELECT 1000U M 6.3V
                            C1672 CEXLB1V471VDN ELECT 470U M 35V

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                            • tw2005
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 6458
                              • Australia

                              #15
                              Re: Sanyo dp42840 cap exploded

                              I think it's
                              C1660 CEXLB1C101VDN ELECT 100U M 16V

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                              • whatusername
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Dec 2013
                                • 456
                                • United States

                                #16
                                Re: Sanyo dp42840 cap exploded

                                Now thats what im talking about :-) that board looks just like it and as i thought its c 1660 but the other schematic was showing ceramic and i knew it wasnt.. this one shows Electrolytic and its a 100uf 16v thank you so much TW

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                                • whatusername
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Dec 2013
                                  • 456
                                  • United States

                                  #17
                                  Re: Sanyo dp42840 cap exploded

                                  cool found one in my parts bin let me install it and see what happens lol

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                                  • whatusername
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Dec 2013
                                    • 456
                                    • United States

                                    #18
                                    Re: Sanyo dp42840 cap exploded

                                    now if im not mistaken the white dot signifies the neg pole of the cap and upon looking at c1664 apparantly the po soldered in that cap in reverse too which is probably why c1660 blew so if u guys agree even tho c1664 is not blown yet should i replace it or just reverse it?

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                                    • tw2005
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Oct 2011
                                      • 6458
                                      • Australia

                                      #19
                                      Re: Sanyo dp42840 cap exploded

                                      White marker lines up with white band which is Neg, other could be ok but if it looks like it's been removed and resoldered with the Pos at the marker I'd swap it around but would not hurt to replace it.

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                                      • whatusername
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Dec 2013
                                        • 456
                                        • United States

                                        #20
                                        Re: Sanyo dp42840 cap exploded

                                        ok well i did it n powered it on and no explosion this time lol but the tv is doing the classic power on/off symptom for this tv. i tried it 3 times i power it on relay click then powers off nothing on screen and 4th time it locks u out so u cant power cycle again till u unplug it and re plug it now to try and figure out what could be causing it

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