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  • Mikeyboy2007
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Mar 2013
    • 745
    • Scotland

    #61
    Re: Samsung PS51E450 Plasma Problem.

    the tvs been switched on for 10 minutes or so will i check them just now or reboot tv ?

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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #62
      Re: Samsung PS51E450 Plasma Problem.

      Reboot the TV and tell me what it does from the moment it powers up, does that flash, then goes off. I suspect it will hit 200V or so then drop down. If that is the case we need to look at the other boards for the fault as the control board appears to be shutting the VS-ON off because it detects a problem.
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      • Mikeyboy2007
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        • Mar 2013
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        #63
        Re: Samsung PS51E450 Plasma Problem.

        ok multimeter set to 250v dc as soon as i plugged it in it shot striaght up to 200v then started jumping down in 10-12v every half second then when it got down to 12v it gradually went down 1v every 2-3 seconds. this happened with both VS

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        • tom66
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          • Apr 2011
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          #64
          Re: Samsung PS51E450 Plasma Problem.

          OK, so we need to look elsewhere, as the PSU is working for now.
          Could you provide a clear, focused, glare-free pic of the Y-main board.
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          • Mikeyboy2007
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            • Mar 2013
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            #65
            Re: Samsung PS51E450 Plasma Problem.

            i think the x-y main board is combined in this TV Tom ?

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            • tom66
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              #66
              Re: Samsung PS51E450 Plasma Problem.

              As discussed with tw2005, kinda. But not quite. But sort of. I still call it a Y-main even if drives most of the X-main.

              A picture of the large lefthand board then if you like .
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              • Mikeyboy2007
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                • Mar 2013
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                #67
                Re: Samsung PS51E450 Plasma Problem.

                hope this helps Tom. if you need clearer photos of anything let me know.
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                • tom66
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                  • Apr 2011
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                  #68
                  Re: Samsung PS51E450 Plasma Problem.

                  OK test points marked VSCAN and VE. Check the voltage you get on those, red probe on point, black on chassis, and as it turns on, flashes, and then goes dark, note any changes. Compare to panel sticker ratings.
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                  • Mikeyboy2007
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                    #69
                    Re: Samsung PS51E450 Plasma Problem.

                    250v DC ?

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                    • tom66
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                      #70
                      Re: Samsung PS51E450 Plasma Problem.

                      Yes, for now.
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                      • Mikeyboy2007
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                        • Mar 2013
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                        #71
                        Re: Samsung PS51E450 Plasma Problem.

                        ok tom as instructed, VS went striaght upto 201v then started slowly going back down to 010v, VE rose slowly to 81v then slowly rose back down to 10v also

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                        • tom66
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                          #72
                          Re: Samsung PS51E450 Plasma Problem.

                          VS... you mean VSCAN?
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                          • Mikeyboy2007
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                            #73
                            Re: Samsung PS51E450 Plasma Problem.

                            no tom the two test points on this board are VS and VE . VSCAN on the board is what is pictured.
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                            • tom66
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                              #74
                              Re: Samsung PS51E450 Plasma Problem.

                              VSCAN testpoint is near the bottom of the board.
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                              • Mikeyboy2007
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                                #75
                                Re: Samsung PS51E450 Plasma Problem.

                                OK Tom finally managed to find VSSCAN lol plugged in went to -183 stayed like that for a 2 seconds then started rising slowly towards -000, that was with multimeter set to 250vdc.

                                hope this helps, and thanks for your help.

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                                • Mikeyboy2007
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                                  #76
                                  Re: Samsung PS51E450 Plasma Problem.

                                  any ideas ?

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                                  • tom66
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                                    • Apr 2011
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                                    #77
                                    Re: Samsung PS51E450 Plasma Problem.

                                    OK, the results are inconclusive!

                                    You will need to check the buffer boards for shorts.
                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51SZsfH60EY

                                    First - check the buffers.

                                    If they come back good then you will need to check Y-main and X-main (I expect X-main is OK.)
                                    Last edited by tom66; 04-23-2014, 02:19 PM.
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                                    • Mikeyboy2007
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                                      #78
                                      Re: Samsung PS51E450 Plasma Problem.

                                      ok tried best to do as the guy showed in video and got some beeps in there

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                                      • tom66
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                                        #79
                                        Re: Samsung PS51E450 Plasma Problem.

                                        That's me in the video ... Could you highlight where you got beeps on a photo?
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                                        • Mikeyboy2007
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                                          #80
                                          Re: Samsung PS51E450 Plasma Problem.

                                          good video Tom, do you do those kinda videos a lot ? posted a picture, hope it helps was first lot i tested. am i testing right ?
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