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  • multimeter
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jan 2011
    • 739
    • united kingdom

    #1

    alba lcd32880hdf (fixed)

    this one came in with flashing blue red standby led.

    power supply 17ips10-3 v.1,mainboard 17mb45m-2

    the power supply has intergrated inverter bit of a pain,no markings for voltages etc,also used in bush,sylvania etc,it has a touch panel on the side for the usual adjustments ,.

    these NORMALLY suffer with the inverter output ceramic caps (3kv),on c231 &c230,an insulation test confirmed they were fine,and capacitance was within tolerance,all other lytic caps tested for esr returned good results.

    i had all stable voltages ,but no voltage in inverter section??although a fluctuation on the standby voltage was due to the led's flashing in time with the flucuation.

    it was hit and miss knowing what voltage goes where,it is a vestal afterall!things seemed fine as a guestamite.

    i decided to do component testing in the area of the inverter,from the smpt there are 2 ultra fast recovery diodes in parallel .

    floating my scope probe over the smpt was showing a waveform,this indicated to me that there is life there.

    i carried through checks on these diodes and found a shorted diode,(in circuit),removed from circuit and tested the same,(d105)a uf5402,upon scabbing through my junk bin,i found one of the same spec,installed,

    the result.

    she fired right up,full backlights,menus the lot.

    on soak now just to check she dont cough,so far so good.

    another saved from costly landfill!
    fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

    ----------------------------------------------
    please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!
  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: alba lcd32880hdf (fixed)

    Thanks for posting but did you use expensive meter? Otherwise you are not a pro and it is not good enough for working on TV! The Greek may tell you otherwise since you are not using expensive meter, you cannot possibly fix anything with cheap meter!
    You cannot even use cheap meter to check the fuse!
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...711#post409711
    Last edited by budm; 01-13-2014, 09:58 AM.
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    • multimeter
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Jan 2011
      • 739
      • united kingdom

      #3
      Re: alba lcd32880hdf (fixed)

      Originally posted by budm
      Thanks for posting but did you use expensive meter? Otherwise you are not a pro and it is not good enough for working on TV! The Greek may tell you otherwise since you are not using expensive meter, you cannot possibly fix anything with cheap meter!
      You cannot even use cheap meter to check the fuse!
      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...711#post409711
      funny enough i tracked it down with an old analogue meter set to x10k cost be around £20 for the 2,as my fluke was in work,a good way to check for breakdown is to use 2 meters in series,which gives you a higher output voltage at the probes.

      im waiting for his website,where you have to log in with your bank statement number,anything less than a hundred grand and your stuffed !!

      its not about using cheapish test equipment

      its how you use it .......,ever heard the saying"you have a black cat,i have a black panther"?..rings true dont it

      in all honesty you and tom are the couple i enjoy reading about over the net,and not just on badcaps.and id stand by them !i like how you guys think outside the box.

      everywhere i look about the "said"person elsewhere else seems to flag up a lot of misery,i wonder why?................!
      Last edited by multimeter; 01-13-2014, 10:15 AM.
      fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

      ----------------------------------------------
      please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #4
        Re: alba lcd32880hdf (fixed)

        Haha I must have replaced/seen SO many bad diodes on Vestels... let's think

        17PW25-4 (x 2): 11 x UF5408 each
        17PW26-3: 1 x UF5402 + 1 x generic ultrafast 1amp
        17PW20-1: 2 x 3amp schottky
        17PW15-8: 2 x 3amp schottky, 1 x 1amp schottky

        A friend of mine has fixed quite a few PW26's with shorted diodes too.

        They are truly the bane of modern Vestel sets.
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        • cossiejay
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 83

          #5
          Re: alba lcd32880hdf (fixed)

          i have one of these tv with 100% same problems I have removed diodes all fine and replaced the 2 caps by the invertors still will not come on

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          • cossiejay
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 83

            #6
            Re: alba lcd32880hdf (fixed)

            33uf 100v cap on live side changed and bingo straight on

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            • ReeceyBurger123
              Never Give Up !
              • May 2014
              • 7325
              • Britain

              #7
              Re: alba lcd32880hdf (fixed)

              Originally posted by cossiejay
              33uf 100v cap on live side changed and bingo straight on
              What Psu on ?
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              • vinceroger69
                Badcaps Legend
                • Mar 2012
                • 6714
                • uk

                #8
                Re: alba lcd32880hdf (fixed)

                Originally posted by ReeceyBurger123
                What Psu on ?
                Maybe this thread
                https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...838#post628838

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                • ReeceyBurger123
                  Never Give Up !
                  • May 2014
                  • 7325
                  • Britain

                  #9
                  Re: alba lcd32880hdf (fixed)

                  There is no 33uf 100v cap on the 17PW26 what I find funny is he claimed he checked them all.
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                  • vinceroger69
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 6714
                    • uk

                    #10
                    Re: alba lcd32880hdf (fixed)

                    i was thinking the 17ips10-3 power board im not sure lol.

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                    • ReeceyBurger123
                      Never Give Up !
                      • May 2014
                      • 7325
                      • Britain

                      #11
                      Re: alba lcd32880hdf (fixed)

                      I have no idea what hes on about at all ohh well lol
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                      • cossiejay
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 83

                        #12
                        Re: alba lcd32880hdf (fixed)

                        17ips 10-3 which is what this post is about if you read all the comments you would realise that ,I also never mention checking all the caps on this board

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                        • cossiejay
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 83

                          #13
                          Re: alba lcd32880hdf (fixed)

                          and my post that you refer to also clearly states they have different boards please fully read posts and comments before jumping to conclusions one of you have made your self look very silly

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                          • ReeceyBurger123
                            Never Give Up !
                            • May 2014
                            • 7325
                            • Britain

                            #14
                            Re: alba lcd32880hdf (fixed)

                            Well the other post is the same Tv ffs what do you expect us to think lol
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                            • cossiejay
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 83

                              #15
                              Re: alba lcd32880hdf (fixed)

                              they are both the same tv ffs read THE POST CORRECTLY I STATE THEY HAVE DIFFERENT BOARDS IN THEM not fcuking hard is it

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                              • michael dranfield
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Jan 2016
                                • 232
                                • England

                                #16
                                Re: alba lcd32880hdf (fixed)

                                Originally posted by multimeter
                                this one came in with flashing blue red standby led.

                                power supply 17ips10-3 v.1,mainboard 17mb45m-2

                                the power supply has intergrated inverter bit of a pain,no markings for voltages etc,also used in bush,sylvania etc,it has a touch panel on the side for the usual adjustments ,.

                                these NORMALLY suffer with the inverter output ceramic caps (3kv),on c231 &c230,an insulation test confirmed they were fine,and capacitance was within tolerance,all other lytic caps tested for esr returned good results.

                                i had all stable voltages ,but no voltage in inverter section??although a fluctuation on the standby voltage was due to the led's flashing in time with the flucuation.

                                it was hit and miss knowing what voltage goes where,it is a vestal afterall!things seemed fine as a guestamite.

                                i decided to do component testing in the area of the inverter,from the smpt there are 2 ultra fast recovery diodes in parallel .

                                floating my scope probe over the smpt was showing a waveform,this indicated to me that there is life there.

                                i carried through checks on these diodes and found a shorted diode,(in circuit),removed from circuit and tested the same,(d105)a uf5402,upon scabbing through my junk bin,i found one of the same spec,installed,

                                the result.

                                she fired right up,full backlights,menus the lot.

                                on soak now just to check she dont cough,so far so good.

                                another saved from costly landfill!
                                I would not count on testing them HV caps too much , I have put 3750V volts on them before and they dont break down, the value on test is fine but put a new one in and it always cures the fault ???????????

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                                • ReeceyBurger123
                                  Never Give Up !
                                  • May 2014
                                  • 7325
                                  • Britain

                                  #17
                                  Re: alba lcd32880hdf (fixed)

                                  Originally posted by cossiejay
                                  they are both the same tv ffs read THE POST CORRECTLY I STATE THEY HAVE DIFFERENT BOARDS IN THEM not fcuking hard is it
                                  Haha go fuck your self think im helping your useless ass swearing at me, you little prick good luck with your Tv twat
                                  Last edited by ReeceyBurger123; 02-12-2016, 10:44 AM.
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                                  • cossiejay
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Nov 2010
                                    • 83

                                    #18
                                    Re: alba lcd32880hdf (fixed)

                                    swearing whu jump to conclusions before you read the full post with your smarmy answers I have noticed on a few adds you come across as a complete know it all idiot

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                                    • Topcat
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                                      • Oct 2003
                                      • 16958
                                      • United States

                                      #19
                                      Re: alba lcd32880hdf (fixed)

                                      ohh for crying out loud.....lets all go to a neutral corner and come out friends again.
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                                      • ReeceyBurger123
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                                        • May 2014
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                                        #20
                                        Re: alba lcd32880hdf (fixed)

                                        Im done btw Topcat he sent me a Pm calling me a cunt the little prick haha
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