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  • DPElectronics
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    • Nov 2013
    • 10
    • USA

    #1

    samsung UN46D6050 sound but no picture

    Hello i have a un46d6050 with no pictures I've tried changing the t-con board the power board and the main boards all of which were purchased from ebay but still all i keep getting is sound and no picture just a blue screen
  • munirutech
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 72
    • Ghana

    #2
    Re: samsung UN46D6050 sound but no picture

    then i guess the panel if bad and need to be changed

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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #3
      Re: samsung UN46D6050 sound but no picture

      Check voltage on t-con fuse but it's quite likely as munirutech said that the panel is bad. Especially if it has ever been splashed with water. Try disconnecting one t-con ribbon at a time too.
      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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      • rlega
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2014
        • 93
        • United States

        #4
        Re: samsung UN46D6050 sound but no picture

        Hello everyone,

        I have a Samsung UN46D6050TFXZA TV that I purchased a while ago, and have not been able to fix it. I had mentioned the TV on this thread, but at that time I thought it was the mainboard, only to find out that it sells over $110. I decided to keep the TV and find a broken one so I can take the mainboard, and that's what happened this weekend. I purchased a broken screen model UN55D6000SFXZA and luckily the mainboard and t-con are the same.

        The original problem of the UN46D6050TFXZA TV is that there is sound, but no video. You can see the tv flashes when you turn it on, and it flashes when you change channels, but no video. So I replaced the mainboard on the UN46D6050TFXZA (BN94-05038F) and used UN55D6000SFXZA (BN94-05038D) mainboard, problem persisted, sound but no video and the same symptoms described above. The mainboard is identical and on the internet it showed me the substitute parts and model was there.

        Now, I replaced the original t-con on the UN46D6050TFXZA and used UN55D6000SFXZA t-con, and the SmartTV logo came up, but you were able to see that the brightness on it was dissapearing, like using for example a knob that you control the power from high to low. The SmartTV logo when from high to low, the sound came up, but could not see the channels. I replaced the mainboard that I was using from the UN55D6000SFXZA TV (BN94-05038D), and installed the original one (BN94-05038F), the problem persisted. I replaced the t-con I was using from the UN55D6000SFXZA TV and installed the original t-con that came with the UN46D6050TFXZA, problem persisted.

        I have checked the power supply board (BN44-00423A (PD46A1_BSM)). The rectifier gave me correct readings. Inside pins 120VAC, outside pins 166VDC. Checked the 450v capacitor and it gave me 166VDC on standby, when I powered the TV it gave me a reading of 386VDC. The are two fuses on the board and they had continuity.

        I do not have the TV with me, its a my dad's house cause that's where we were working on it, but the power supply is this one:
        BN44-00423A

        Anything else that I can do?

        I'm suspecting it is the power supply.

        Thanks
        Last edited by rlega; 12-31-2014, 04:51 PM.

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        • nomoresonys
          Badcaps Legend
          • Jan 2013
          • 12206
          • U.S.

          #5
          Re: samsung UN46D6050 sound but no picture

          make sure all your power supply voltages are proper at the connectors/cables going to the other boards, hopefully theres a legend by the connectors, careful when working with power supply, HIGH VOLTAGE on primary side.
          Quit because THIS SITE LETS A ROGUE MEMBER TYPE ANY GARBAGE HE PLEASES AND THE POWERS THAT BE NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO HE NEVER QUITS. THEN YOU GET A PENALTY FOR RESPONDING TO HIS ATTACKS. BEEN GOING ON FOR WAY TOO LONG. DONE SUPPORTING A SITE THAT ALLOWS THIS BS.

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          • rlega
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2014
            • 93
            • United States

            #6
            Re: samsung UN46D6050 sound but no picture

            Originally posted by nomoresonys
            make sure all your power supply voltages are proper at the connectors/cables going to the other boards, hopefully theres a legend by the connectors, careful when working with power supply, HIGH VOLTAGE on primary side.
            Some of you are way better than me when it comes to electronics and testing. I was wondering if someone had the same issue or similar, or if someone can guide me what to test on the power supply, how and where. Not much how, but which pins to select and what readings I should get.

            You are right. I'm careful when I do testing.



            Thanks
            Last edited by rlega; 12-31-2014, 05:11 PM.

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            • nomoresonys
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jan 2013
              • 12206
              • U.S.

              #7
              Re: samsung UN46D6050 sound but no picture

              check tom66's post #3, see if you can find a manual, its in the small print.
              Quit because THIS SITE LETS A ROGUE MEMBER TYPE ANY GARBAGE HE PLEASES AND THE POWERS THAT BE NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO HE NEVER QUITS. THEN YOU GET A PENALTY FOR RESPONDING TO HIS ATTACKS. BEEN GOING ON FOR WAY TOO LONG. DONE SUPPORTING A SITE THAT ALLOWS THIS BS.

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              • tibimakai
                Badcaps Legend
                • Jan 2012
                • 3680
                • USA

                #8
                Re: samsung UN46D6050 sound but no picture

                It's not an LED issue?

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                • tom66
                  EVs Rule
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 32560
                  • UK

                  #9
                  Re: samsung UN46D6050 sound but no picture

                  Blue screen - slight backlight leakage?
                  Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                  For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                  • rlega
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 93
                    • United States

                    #10
                    Re: samsung UN46D6050 sound but no picture

                    Originally posted by nomoresonys
                    check tom66's post #3, see if you can find a manual, its in the small print.
                    Hello, could not find any manuals from tom66.

                    Originally posted by tom66
                    Blue screen - slight backlight leakage?
                    The tv doesnt have backlight leakage.

                    I'm really scratching my head on this one

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                    • nomoresonys
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 12206
                      • U.S.

                      #11
                      Re: samsung UN46D6050 sound but no picture

                      Originally posted by rlega
                      Hello, could not find any manuals from tom66.



                      The tv doesnt have backlight leakage.

                      I'm really scratching my head on this one
                      you didnt find one when you searched or you didnt find it in the post?
                      Quit because THIS SITE LETS A ROGUE MEMBER TYPE ANY GARBAGE HE PLEASES AND THE POWERS THAT BE NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO HE NEVER QUITS. THEN YOU GET A PENALTY FOR RESPONDING TO HIS ATTACKS. BEEN GOING ON FOR WAY TOO LONG. DONE SUPPORTING A SITE THAT ALLOWS THIS BS.

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                      • rlega
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 93
                        • United States

                        #12
                        Re: samsung UN46D6050 sound but no picture

                        Originally posted by nomoresonys
                        you didnt find one when you searched or you didnt find it in the post?
                        I did not find a manual here: http://www.toms-service-manuals.com/

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                        • nomoresonys
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 12206
                          • U.S.

                          #13
                          Re: samsung UN46D6050 sound but no picture

                          can you post some good clear pics., of each board and one of how they are all connected, this is an led tv, folks forget to put type of tv in initial post, it makes it tougher to have to google to find out what type it is.
                          Quit because THIS SITE LETS A ROGUE MEMBER TYPE ANY GARBAGE HE PLEASES AND THE POWERS THAT BE NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO HE NEVER QUITS. THEN YOU GET A PENALTY FOR RESPONDING TO HIS ATTACKS. BEEN GOING ON FOR WAY TOO LONG. DONE SUPPORTING A SITE THAT ALLOWS THIS BS.

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                          • rlega
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 93
                            • United States

                            #14
                            Re: samsung UN46D6050 (LED TV) sound but no picture

                            Originally posted by nomoresonys
                            can you post some good clear pics., of each board and one of how they are all connected, this is an led tv, folks forget to put type of tv in initial post, it makes it tougher to have to google to find out what type it is.
                            I will post some clear pics tomorrow since the TV is at my dads house.
                            Sorry I did not open a thread since this one was open, I used it, but I have added the word LED at the title of my post

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                            • rlega
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 93
                              • United States

                              #15
                              Re: samsung UN46D6050 sound but no picture

                              Originally posted by nomoresonys
                              can you post some good clear pics., of each board and one of how they are all connected, this is an led tv, folks forget to put type of tv in initial post, it makes it tougher to have to google to find out what type it is.
                              Hello,

                              Here are a bunch of pictures

                              Hope this helps, thank you!
                              Attached Files

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                              • CapLeaker
                                Leaking Member
                                • Dec 2014
                                • 8214
                                • Canada

                                #16
                                Re: samsung UN46D6050 sound but no picture

                                Have a look at the LVDS signal with the oscilloscope. While checking the LVDS signal, press the menu button and turn the menu on and off on the tv. As you do that, the waveform on the oscilloscope changes. This way you know that your main board is working o.k. or not. The LVDS signal is quite low btw.

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                                • rlega
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Jan 2014
                                  • 93
                                  • United States

                                  #17
                                  Re: samsung UN46D6050 sound but no picture

                                  Originally posted by CapLeaker
                                  Have a look at the LVDS signal with the oscilloscope. While checking the LVDS signal, press the menu button and turn the menu on and off on the tv. As you do that, the waveform on the oscilloscope changes. This way you know that your main board is working o.k. or not. The LVDS signal is quite low btw.
                                  Hello CapLeaker,

                                  I do not have a oscilloscope.

                                  I do have a question though. On the power supply board, there is a capacitor 223js1000v (CM813).

                                  I purchased a board on ebay, and the board arrived without the capacitor . The board will be shipped back, so they can solder it, but in the meantime, I'm trying to find the same capacitor so I can ordered it.

                                  I found this on ebay.

                                  Is it the correct one? If its not, could someone please let me know where I can get it?

                                  Thanks
                                  Attached Files

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: samsung UN46D6050 sound but no picture

                                    http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...1901-ND/502681

                                    Polypropylene (PP), Metallized
                                    High Pulse, DV/DT
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • rlega
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Jan 2014
                                      • 93
                                      • United States

                                      #19
                                      Re: samsung UN46D6050 sound but no picture

                                      Originally posted by budm
                                      http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...1901-ND/502681

                                      Polypropylene (PP), Metallized
                                      High Pulse, DV/DT
                                      Thank you budm.

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                                      • CapLeaker
                                        Leaking Member
                                        • Dec 2014
                                        • 8214
                                        • Canada

                                        #20
                                        Re: samsung UN46D6050 sound but no picture

                                        I don't like buying caps on e-bay of any kind. Anyway... budm got you sorted out already!

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