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  • kleini
    Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 11
    • Germany

    #1

    Samsung LE40D550K1W no backlight

    TV starts up, shows picture (checked with flashlight) and plays sound but the backlight doesn't come on. Very seldom the backlight flickers for a few seconds (usually a few minutes after being powered on).

    Part # (Haven't found any matching datasheets so far.)
    PSU: BN44-00440A
    MainBoard: BN41-01751
    Inverter: SST400_12A01 INV40T12A

    What i did so far:

    1) Visually checked all electrolytic capacitors. They looked fine but i replaced them anyway, except the big main caps.

    2) Checked for cold solder joints.

    3) Measured voltages. The 13V lane seems a bit low but should be OK I think? High Voltage towards the inverter is missing.

    Main Caps: 390V

    CN801 (towards inverter - see attachment - not listed Pins are NC)
    Pin# Label: measured voltage (target voltage)
    1 High(FET): 0V (280VAC)
    3 Low(FET): 0V (190V ACDC?)
    8 GND: 0V (0V)
    9 OVP: 0V (?V) (Seems to be a backlight-confirm Signal.)
    10 CNT_PRT: 11.79V (?V)
    11 VCC: 12.38V (13V)
    12 LD: 11.04V (?V)

    CN802 (towards main/interface -board)
    Pin# Label: measured voltage (target voltage)
    1, 3, 5, 7 B13V: 12.38V (13V)
    2 P_DIM: 1.43V
    6 BLU_ON: 5.07V
    8, 9, 10 GND: 0V (0V)
    11, 13 B5V: 5.2V (5.3V)
    12 A5V: 5.2V (5.3V)

    4) Checked the two MOSFETS (MI801S, MI802S) that drive the Inverter. Both are OK!
    Realised there is no voltage at the gate pin of the MOSFETS.

    5) Traced it back to UI801 - marking is SEM2106 1132 - found a datasheet (attached).

    6) Measured voltages on SEM2106.
    Pin1,24 VREF,P_DIM: 0.7V
    Pin14 VCC: 12.36V
    Pin16 Enable: 4.91V
    Pin 12,13 N1,N2: 0V (These are connected to a tiny transformer that drives the two aforementioned MOSFETS)


    Everything seems to point towards the SEM2106 being damaged but would that result in a sporadically flickering backlight?
    Attached Files
  • luisparada
    New Member
    • Nov 2013
    • 2
    • Mexico

    #2
    Re: Samsung LE40D550K1W no backlight

    Did you solve your problem? I have the same issue, but in my power board (same as yours) I found capacitor CP811 completly fried.

    do you happen to know the specs for that capacitor?

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Samsung LE40D550K1W no backlight

      The snubber cap (in parallel with the Diode DP804) CP811 for the PFC Diode DP804 is 100pf 1KV ceramic cap.
      See similar cap CP811 used in the similar circuit.
      Attached Files
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • luisparada
        New Member
        • Nov 2013
        • 2
        • Mexico

        #4
        Re: Samsung LE40D550K1W no backlight

        Thank you a lot for your help! I made a quick call to my local store, would a 100pf/500 V work?

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Samsung LE40D550K1W no backlight

          No, do not go lower than 1000V rating
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • kleini
            Member
            • Oct 2013
            • 11
            • Germany

            #6
            Re: Samsung LE40D550K1W no backlight

            Hi luisparada, sorry for the late reply...
            I just took a look at CP811 and on my board the value is 220pF ±10%/1kV, if I decoded the markings correctly. The complete marking is "LB 221K 1KV".
            At the moment I'm still waiting for the ICs to arrive (had some trouble with a seller on Alibaba).
            I'll post results when they get here (in one or two weeks).

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            • kleini
              Member
              • Oct 2013
              • 11
              • Germany

              #7
              Re: Samsung LE40D550K1W no backlight

              Well I'm back at the beginning.
              Replacing the SEM2106 changed nothing.
              If anybody has any ideas I'm all ear.

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              • kleini
                Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 11
                • Germany

                #8
                Re: Samsung LE40D550K1W no backlight

                Problem solved.
                Since replacing UI801 didn't fix my problem I started checking the diodes and z-diodes around it.
                Sure enough one of the zeners was broken. ZDI805 a 6.8V zener had a breakdown voltage of ~4.5V.
                Replaced it and now everything works.

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                • HANSPAL4U
                  New Member
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 1
                  • india

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung LE40D550K1W no backlight

                  Hi Kleini

                  I found MOSFETS (MI801S)completly fried , but Mosfets (mI801s) is seem to be fine advise tha part name/ details of MI801s

                  Thanks & Brgds
                  Singh

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                  • digital
                    New Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 1

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung LE40D550K1W no backlight

                    zdi804 6,8 v ,radi nje neradi inverter

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                    • rauffmia
                      New Member
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 7
                      • Sri lanka

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung LE40D550K1W no backlight

                      invetoreka ti kassu kama toa

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                      • S7YH
                        New Member
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 1
                        • United States

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung LE40D550K1W no backlight

                        Originally posted by kleini
                        Problem solved.
                        Since replacing UI801 didn't fix my problem I started checking the diodes and z-diodes around it.
                        Sure enough one of the zeners was broken. ZDI805 a 6.8V zener had a breakdown voltage of ~4.5V.
                        Replaced it and now everything works.


                        solved and working.......
                        You were correct....replaced the Zener ZDI805 ans ZDI804 and presto...all is working fine

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                        • raj mehra
                          New Member
                          • Aug 2016
                          • 1
                          • india

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung La32d450 no backlight

                          sir pls help me about repair inverter circut useing with sem2106 or mosfet 5n52u

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                          • Donazan
                            New Member
                            • Oct 2016
                            • 2
                            • Nigeria

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung LE40D550K1W no backlight

                            Samsung LA32E420 LCD 32 INCH TV, power not coming on at all. there is about 390v dc on the main power capacitor I have replaced STR W6052S and 10N60 transistor on the same heat sink of the STR but still not working. any idea pls help me out.

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                            • Herendi László
                              New Member
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 1
                              • Hungary

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung LE40D550K1W no backlight

                              Originally posted by S7YH
                              solved and working.......
                              You were correct....replaced the Zener ZDI805 ans ZDI804 and presto...all is working fine
                              My problem was the ZD1801 9.1 zener

                              Best regards László

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                              • shivamtechnology
                                New Member
                                • May 2018
                                • 1
                                • India

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung LE40D550K1W no backlight

                                Samsung LA32E420 LCD 32 INCH TV, power not coming on at all. there is about 390v dc on the main power capacitor I have replaced STR W6052S and 10N60 transistor on the same heat sink of the STR but still not working. any idea pls help me out.

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung LE40D550K1W no backlight

                                  Originally posted by shivamtechnology
                                  Samsung LA32E420 LCD 32 INCH TV, power not coming on at all. there is about 390v dc on the main power capacitor I have replaced STR W6052S and 10N60 transistor on the same heat sink of the STR but still not working. any idea pls help me out.
                                  Start a new thread and upload GOOD CLEAR pictures of the whole backside of the TV showing all the boards.
                                  What other Voltages did you check beside the Voltage on the main cap?
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                  Comment

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