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  • landyboy
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Apr 2013
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    #1

    Westinghouse LTV 32w3 HD

    I just picked up a Westinghouse with no picture. I've tested the power supply and at the inverter I have the proper voltages at the connector on the inverterboard but no inverter back lights. I have tested the three fuses on the inverter and they all test 0 ohms. Any thoughts on the next step?
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  • landyboy
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    • Apr 2013
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    #2
    Re: Westinghouse LTV 32w3 HD

    Here is a pic of the TCON, I have no voltage at the fuse either side. I tested the fuse 0 ohms
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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Westinghouse LTV 32w3 HD

      "I have the proper voltages" What voltages do you get at the inverter board connector?
      Do you have BL_ON signal at the inverter board?
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • landyboy
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Apr 2013
        • 443
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        #4
        Re: Westinghouse LTV 32w3 HD

        Sorry here are the values starting with pin 1

        VBL 24.42
        VBL 24.42
        VBL 24.42
        VBL 24.42
        VBL 24.42
        G
        G
        G
        G
        G

        Connector 2
        VBL (all VBL 24.42vdc)
        VBL
        VBL
        VBL
        il sel 24.42vdc
        G
        G
        G
        SEL 0vdc
        E_PWM .893VDC
        BLON .042vdc

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Westinghouse LTV 32w3 HD

          "BLON .042vdc" Main board is not sending the signal to turn on the Backlights, It should be 3V or more.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • Clydeuk
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 193

            #6
            Re: Westinghouse LTV 32w3 HD

            Check the low voltage supplies to the Main board, 5v, 12v, 3.3v whatever they are, sounds like a power supply fault possibly.

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            • landyboy
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Apr 2013
              • 443
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              #7
              Re: Westinghouse LTV 32w3 HD

              Voltages from the main PSU
              12v 11.84vdc
              12v 11.84vdc
              GND
              GND
              5V 4.98
              SB 5.15
              5V 5.15
              GND
              PS 4.512

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              • Clydeuk
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 193

                #8
                Re: Westinghouse LTV 32w3 HD

                Sounds ok, not sure what panel you have in that set to know what voltage it needs, it's usually 12v though some use 5v. Try pulling out the LVDS and see if the backlights come up, depending on panel you'll have a white or black screen without a supply when the backlights are lit. If it's not that start investigating the main board, probably 3.3v developed on there for the processor.

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                • Clydeuk
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 193

                  #9
                  Re: Westinghouse LTV 32w3 HD

                  Oh from memory most inverters will run if you remove the BL-ON wire, it's normally high and held low by the main board until the set has booted up correctly.

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                  • landyboy
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 443
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                    #10
                    Re: Westinghouse LTV 32w3 HD

                    Ok pulled the LVDS from the Tcon still no back lights. Also one other thing I am noticing when I plug the tv in, the blue light flashes once but takes 10 seconds or so to go solid blue after I push the power button.

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Westinghouse LTV 32w3 HD

                      "BLON .042vdc" Right now the BL_ON Line is stuck low, it needs to go high to turn on the inverter PWM circuits. You disconnected the BL_ON line and use 1K resistor between the BL_ON pin on the inverter and the 5V to force on the backlights.
                      Last edited by budm; 05-20-2013, 09:46 PM.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • landyboy
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 443
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Westinghouse LTV 32w3 HD

                        Ok i jumpered from the 5v to the Blon and it appears that the two center inverter lights came on.

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                        • landyboy
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                          • Apr 2013
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                          #13
                          Re: Westinghouse LTV 32w3 HD

                          i could only locate a 1.4 k resistor at this time.

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Westinghouse LTV 32w3 HD

                            You did disconnect the BL_ON line that goes bask the power supply board, right? 1.4K is fine,the screen should light up and if there is nothing else wrong with other boards, you should see pictures on the screen.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • cashkennedy
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 666
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Westinghouse LTV 32w3 HD

                              Have you tried doing a hard reset? Some sets remember that there was a backlight failure and then refuse to turn on till you hard reset them.

                              After you hard reset it, it might turn on for 2 seconds to black / because if only some of your bulbs are working it should redetect that.

                              I don't know the reset buttons for a Westinghouse though...
                              Last edited by cashkennedy; 05-21-2013, 01:02 AM.
                              Fixed so far 12 lcd's , 1 plasmas, 5 monitors, 0 dlp's (plan to keep the dlps at 0). and 3 atx power supplies, and 2 motherboards.

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                              • landyboy
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                                • Apr 2013
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                                #16
                                Re: Westinghouse LTV 32w3 HD

                                Back light came on but no picture, no menu.

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                                • kevinm34232
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • May 2012
                                  • 1884
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Westinghouse LTV 32w3 HD

                                  Originally posted by landyboy
                                  Ok i jumpered from the 5v to the Blon and it appears that the two center inverter lights came on.
                                  Does that mean all the bulbs didn't light up on the screen?

                                  Also did you plug the LVDS cable back in?

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                                  • landyboy
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                                    • Apr 2013
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Westinghouse LTV 32w3 HD

                                    Yes, and yes although the later would not be out of the norm for me.

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                                    • landyboy
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                                      • Apr 2013
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Westinghouse LTV 32w3 HD

                                      Sorry posted to the wrong thread... Im not sure if all the lights lit up. The two center ones did.
                                      Last edited by landyboy; 05-21-2013, 01:55 PM.

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                                      • cashkennedy
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Aug 2011
                                        • 666
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Westinghouse LTV 32w3 HD

                                        A very "definite" way to tell if its the inverters / or the actual bulbs is to swap the bulbs around / but that requires taking the tv completely apart, being very careful with the lcd panel / but will also let you get a look at the boards where the bulbs connect. Sometimes there are issues on the bulb boards / like bad caps.
                                        Fixed so far 12 lcd's , 1 plasmas, 5 monitors, 0 dlp's (plan to keep the dlps at 0). and 3 atx power supplies, and 2 motherboards.

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