Samsung LN-T2353H won't turn on

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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #21
    Re: Samsung LN-T2353H won't turn on

    Failed F9222L seems to be common failure, it is not even mounted on the heatsink.
    I was told that I do not even know half the electronics as TOM, I am just a kid playing with the keyboard by the Greek Pro,.
    Post 32:
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...t=28508&page=2
    Last edited by budm; 05-18-2013, 06:49 PM.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • tibimakai
      Badcaps Legend
      • Jan 2012
      • 3680
      • USA

      #22
      Re: Samsung LN-T2353H won't turn on

      Wow, I haven't seen that.
      I don't consider myself a knowledgeable person, but I have build many things( two complete satellite systems from scratch, what I mean by that, I had to do the winding of the transformer, uF components, build the case from sheet metal, the PCB, motorized mechanism for the 2 meter dish/ cassette deck from scratch, many audio amplifiers from scratch, etc.) , I have repaired many things in my life, like cars, everything around the house, assembled CNC machines, repaired CNC machines, I'm a machinist by the way.
      I have rebuild a '68 Volkswagen Beetle, I have put together it's engine here in the states and I have shipped it back where the car it was, then there I have put it in and so on.
      I have build a shower at the work place where I used to work a while back, and after all this, I still don't consider myself knowledgeable. I'm still learning.
      I had this F9222L failed in the past in another Samsung monitor, that's why I had another one.
      The Digikey box has just arrived.
      Last edited by tibimakai; 05-18-2013, 08:04 PM.

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      • tibimakai
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jan 2012
        • 3680
        • USA

        #23
        Re: Samsung LN-T2353H won't turn on

        I have soldered in the remaining resister and booted up the TV.
        It worked for like ten seconds, then turned off and some smoke came out.
        I have noticed the main fuse blown and I have measured only the pin 19 and 23 at the F9222L and it was shorted.
        Most likely, there it was another shorted component which I haven't found.

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #24
          Re: Samsung LN-T2353H won't turn on

          If it worked for 10 seconds, the snubber may have been faulty, or the heatsink for the F9222L was not properly installed (thermal paste?)
          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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          • tibimakai
            Badcaps Legend
            • Jan 2012
            • 3680
            • USA

            #25
            Re: Samsung LN-T2353H won't turn on

            It doesn't have a heatsink. Which one is the snubber?

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            • tom66
              EVs Rule
              • Apr 2011
              • 32560
              • UK

              #26
              Re: Samsung LN-T2353H won't turn on

              RM802 good/bad?
              Counterfeit F9222? Perhaps not original replacement?
              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #27
                Re: Samsung LN-T2353H won't turn on

                If you leave the RM802 out, will it still show short using short indicator box (new main fuse installed)?
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • tibimakai
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 3680
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: Samsung LN-T2353H won't turn on

                  I haven't had a chance to look at the schematics yet. If I remove the IC it shows 1.025 MOhm between pin #19 +23.. It could be that resistor's value, I haven't checked yet.
                  If I remove the resistor, it shows open between pin #4 + 19 and #19 + 23.
                  The truth to be told, this IC I have used it previously and I thought that it's a good one, but it may have been a bad one.
                  The question is, how can I be sure that I won't blow up some new parts again.
                  I don't see any short now with the RM802, F9222L and the 0.22 Ohm resistor removed. The 0.22 Ohm resistor it didn't blow up.
                  Now, I have to place an order, for a T5A/250V fuse.
                  The F9222L, comes from a far land and it will take a while to get here.

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                  • cashkennedy
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 668
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: Samsung LN-T2353H won't turn on

                    Budm, lol at your conversation with the greek pro, im a hobbyist electrician, guess it means Im 5 years from being a pro? unfortunately I don't know when I chose hobbyist so im not sure when I graduate to pro. Your day job work looks interesting, I had figured you were just retired, you must be valuable if they let you check badcaps.net so often , or discrete
                    Fixed so far 12 lcd's , 1 plasmas, 5 monitors, 0 dlp's (plan to keep the dlps at 0). and 3 atx power supplies, and 2 motherboards.

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: Samsung LN-T2353H won't turn on

                      I have been doing professional work since 1974, long before the Greek pro. Semi-retired.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • tibimakai
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 3680
                        • USA

                        #31
                        Re: Samsung LN-T2353H won't turn on

                        The IC came in, installed it and it's still the same as in the beginning, turns on and off by itself.
                        At least, nothing blew up this time.
                        Tomorrow ,I will do some measurements.

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                        • tibimakai
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 3680
                          • USA

                          #32
                          Re: Samsung LN-T2353H won't turn on

                          Bud, what should I check for? Basically, we are at the beginning state. Missing same voltages. Some of them(12V and 24V) are very low 1.2V-1.6V.

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