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  • notallbad
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    • Oct 2012
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    #1

    Goodmans GTVL37W24HD LCD TV

    TV comes on but no video, just alternates through a cycle of displaying a full screen of red, green, blue, white and black screens.
  • tom66
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    • Apr 2011
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    #2
    Re: Goodmans GTVL37W24HD LCD TV

    Probably needs an eeprom reset as it is stuck in factory test mode. Who made this TV internally? (If you're not sure post some pictures of the boards; we may be able to guess.)
    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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    • notallbad
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      Re: Goodmans GTVL37W24HD LCD TV

      Hi, thanks for reply.

      The internal boards are all Beko Elektronik.

      Main b/d: HW1.190R-3

      Service manual found here:
      http://www.scribd.com/doc/28225165/Grundig-PE-Chassis
      Last edited by notallbad; 03-13-2013, 05:18 PM.

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      • notallbad
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        Re: Goodmans GTVL37W24HD LCD TV

        Could low or absent voltages cause these symptoms?

        Back panel removed.
        Connector S1503 To PSU Pin 7 does not have any voltage present - looking at the schematics this should have 5v, please correct me if I am wrong.
        No voltage present either in standby or when on.
        Page 2-32.
        Last edited by notallbad; 03-14-2013, 03:33 AM.

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        • notallbad
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          Re: Goodmans GTVL37W24HD LCD TV

          Sorry, please ignore the last post regarding Connector S1503.
          There are no components for this circuit so I'm guessing this is not used for this TV set, i.e. no Q1500, J1500, J1501, R1504,5,7.

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          • tom66
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            • Apr 2011
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            #6
            Re: Goodmans GTVL37W24HD LCD TV

            I've tried to find how to reset it but nobody seems to know...
            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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            • ron77
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              • Dec 2012
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              Re: Goodmans GTVL37W24HD LCD TV

              Have repaired sets with this fault. From my experience Tom is correct. I only had this problem on vestel models. In my case just replaced eeproms I took off spare panels. Don't know procedure to reset your eeprom. Perhaps someone on this forum knows. Ron 77

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              • tom66
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                • Apr 2011
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                #8
                Re: Goodmans GTVL37W24HD LCD TV

                Perhaps installing a new blank eeprom would fix it.
                Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                • notallbad
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                  Re: Goodmans GTVL37W24HD LCD TV

                  OK thanks, so not looking good.

                  Another oddity is that the backlight flashes when first turning it on. Checking the 24v rails which drive the inverter it seems to take a while for the voltage to rise up to 22.6v. There is always 22.6v on the PSU outputs on power up when the cable is removed so its only when the connector is plugged into the LW6.194R-3 board S1501.

                  There are 2 inverter boards, master and slave.
                  With the slave still connected but master inverter disconnected the 24v rail rises to 22.6v no problems, obviously the backlights do not come on and there is no display.
                  With the master still connected but the slave disconnected the 24v rail rises to 22.6v sluggish but is much quicker than when both inverters are connected.
                  Last edited by notallbad; 03-14-2013, 07:40 AM.

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                  • notallbad
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                    Re: Goodmans GTVL37W24HD LCD TV

                    Originally posted by tom66
                    Perhaps installing a new blank eeprom would fix it.
                    Installing a blank eeprom, wouldn't it need flash programming? And which chip is that?

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                    • notallbad
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                      Re: Goodmans GTVL37W24HD LCD TV

                      The TV will sometimes start with just a blank (black) screen but with backlights on.
                      Of course with an input source plugged in there is sound.

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                      • notallbad
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                        #12
                        Re: Goodmans GTVL37W24HD LCD TV

                        What are Analog_Dim and A/D_Dim_Sel ?

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                        • ron77
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                          #13
                          Re: Goodmans GTVL37W24HD LCD TV

                          Eeprom on page 2-17. System eeprom 8 pins. 24volt problem, check relevant caps on psu.

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                          • notallbad
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                            Re: Goodmans GTVL37W24HD LCD TV

                            Originally posted by ron77
                            Eeprom on page 2-17. System eeprom 8 pins. 24volt problem, check relevant caps on psu.
                            ok thanks.

                            I think I can manage swapping one of those chips but how about the programming?

                            Would that be a visual inspection of the caps, they all look good, i.e not leaky or bulging.
                            Last edited by notallbad; 03-14-2013, 08:27 AM.

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                            • notallbad
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                              Re: Goodmans GTVL37W24HD LCD TV

                              LW6.194R-3


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                              • ron77
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                                #16
                                Re: Goodmans GTVL37W24HD LCD TV

                                Buy a programmed eeprom for your model, that is one solution. Check availability. 24v problem, caps look ok, but could still be faulty. Clear your first mentioned problem, then proceed to the next.

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                                • notallbad
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Goodmans GTVL37W24HD LCD TV

                                  Side panel buttons do not appear to be working either but is this because the TV is in Service Mode?

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                                  • ron77
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Goodmans GTVL37W24HD LCD TV

                                    Because the tv is stuck in factory test mode, is why set is not functioning correctly. Try and get an eeprom.

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                                    • notallbad
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                                      Re: Goodmans GTVL37W24HD LCD TV

                                      Originally posted by ron77
                                      Because the tv is stuck in factory test mode, is why set is not functioning correctly. Try and get an eeprom.

                                      Unfortunately I don't have the kit to flash the eeprom and in any case I doubt the program/code is even available so think I shall be dumping it.

                                      Dumping as in trashing, not code dumping.

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                                      • ron77
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                                        Re: Goodmans GTVL37W24HD LCD TV

                                        If you buy a progammed eeprom you only have to fit it. If there are adjusments to be made in service mode, they are not normally difficult.

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