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  • heavymachines
    Badcaps Legend
    • Mar 2011
    • 1028
    • United States

    #121
    Re: vizio vp50

    Originally posted by heavymachines
    how did i know you were gonna say that LOL? yes it was 200k ohm range



    say if its a 100k pot shouldn't it range from 0.00 to 100k?



    could another device suppressing the pot in circuit?

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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #122
      Re: vizio vp50

      If there's excessive parallel load, or if the pot is damaged, you could see those readings.
      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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      • heavymachines
        Badcaps Legend
        • Mar 2011
        • 1028
        • United States

        #123
        Re: vizio vp50

        Originally posted by tom66
        If there's excessive parallel load, or if the pot is damaged, you could see those readings.
        i tested the VS pot and it does not go infinite and this is a good working circuit...



        VA pot climbs to infinite very slowly it a clue i think.......

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #124
          Re: vizio vp50

          Definitely a place to consider. I'd order a compatible replacement & see if it goes.
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          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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          • heavymachines
            Badcaps Legend
            • Mar 2011
            • 1028
            • United States

            #125
            Re: vizio vp50

            tryng to test pots in breadboard can't get readings on either one...?


            but safe to assume i am doing it wrong...
            Last edited by heavymachines; 01-20-2013, 07:38 PM.

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            • heavymachines
              Badcaps Legend
              • Mar 2011
              • 1028
              • United States

              #126
              Re: vizio vp50

              okay got it figured...both pots adjust and no infinite reading in breadboard works perfect far as i can tell so double confirmed ...guess i will have to wait till tomorrow to do power test on tl431...

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              • heavymachines
                Badcaps Legend
                • Mar 2011
                • 1028
                • United States

                #127
                Re: vizio vp50

                UPDATE::::

                ok still low VA still at 14 volts and has different TL431 and measurement at,

                TL431 pin 1 and 3 is 26.6 volts at location U531 on pcb

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                • tom66
                  EVs Rule
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 32560
                  • UK

                  #128
                  Re: vizio vp50

                  There might be a problem around the feedback area of the TL431 and potentiometer.
                  But I don't know...
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                  • heavymachines
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 1028
                    • United States

                    #129
                    Re: vizio vp50

                    Bummer ....that don't sound very confident...umm there is got to be a silly reason why there is low va..... you say feedback area... do you happen to have schematic's on this beast? i have had no luck just owner's manual just about useless...not ready to give up on it yet...power boards too expensive...



                    does the TL431 sound high on voltage? er close to the limit of it's capacity..

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #130
                      Re: vizio vp50

                      No schematics as far as I am aware. The part # is LJ44-00132A right?

                      The feedback is the signal sent back to the SMPS controller to regulate the output. For some reason it's coming out low or the controller is interpreting it as low. Normally I'd have a board in front of me to diagnose, pretty hard to do it over the 'net.
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                      • heavymachines
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1028
                        • United States

                        #131
                        Re: vizio vp50

                        Originally posted by tom66
                        No schematics as far as I am aware. The part # is LJ44-00132A right?

                        The feedback is the signal sent back to the SMPS controller to regulate the output. For some reason it's coming out low or the controller is interpreting it as low. Normally I'd have a board in front of me to diagnose, pretty hard to do it over the 'net.
                        close.. it's LJ44-00132B
                        (Samsung PSPF561A01A)
                        the set full model number is VP50-HDTV20A

                        well now that i figured out macros on that camera i can get better pictures for you if you need...Thanks for sticking it out with me i understand your frustration not having it in front of you...i will do what i can to ease that pain...take better pic's and try by best to fallow instructions... and do some research on my end which i have been doing ....














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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #132
                          Re: vizio vp50

                          I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest swapping the Vs and Va pots; see if the problem then moves to Vs. The circuits for both will be similar; the only real difference is one is 200V and the other is 60V, so try and see if there are any obvious differences between the parts: burn marks etc.
                          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
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                          • heavymachines
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1028
                            • United States

                            #133
                            Re: vizio vp50

                            just so you know i had both pots out and put in breadboard and both read 0.00 one way and approx 25 ohm other way both were within 1 ohm of each other...but still will do pot swap if you insist...

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                            • Baileybum1234
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 245
                              • UK

                              #134
                              Re: vizio vp50

                              :
                              Originally posted by heavymachines
                              close.. it's LJ44-00132B
                              (Samsung PSPF561A01A)
                              the set full model number is VP50-HDTV20A

                              well now that i figured out macros on that camera i can get better pictures for you if you need...Thanks for sticking it out with me i understand your frustration not having it in front of you...i will do what i can to ease that pain...take better pic's and try by best to fallow instructions... and do some research on my end which i have been doing ....

                              Sometimes you can find another tv with a simular board.












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                              Repaired: LG50PQ6000

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                              • vinceroger69
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 6714
                                • uk

                                #135
                                Re: vizio vp50

                                this thread says a Sanyo DP50747 (Chassis P50747-00) uses the same power board does the sanyo manual have a psu diagram in?
                                https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11682

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                                • kevinm34232
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • May 2012
                                  • 1884
                                  • USA

                                  #136
                                  Re: vizio vp50

                                  This is weird I just posted this thread:

                                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=25766

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                                  • heavymachines
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Mar 2011
                                    • 1028
                                    • United States

                                    #137
                                    Re: vizio vp50

                                    Originally posted by Baileybum1234
                                    :
                                    yeah sometimes you can but sometimes it hard to find what all share same parts, shop jimmy gives clues sometimes but not always...

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                                    • heavymachines
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Mar 2011
                                      • 1028
                                      • United States

                                      #138
                                      Re: vizio vp50

                                      and led does not blink at all on ps, i suppose i could take that jumper off... i will tinker with it more on next sunrise..and re read voltages etc...i have a feeling there may be more wrong with the set...but will git-r-done.

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                                      • heavymachines
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Mar 2011
                                        • 1028
                                        • United States

                                        #139
                                        Re: vizio vp50

                                        And thanks for the suggestions gives me lil more leads one of the post i already seen...but as they say anything is better then nothing..

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                                        • heavymachines
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Mar 2011
                                          • 1028
                                          • United States

                                          #140
                                          Re: vizio vp50

                                          Man i am such an idiot...


                                          va is fine mistaken it for vg duhh,,,, yes tom do yell i deserve it...



                                          anyways latest update i removed upper buffer and now the set turns on only bottom half screen lights up can't see the menu to switch input to hdmi , put the buffer back in and no dice and those pair of resisters tom we looked at earlier started smoking!!!!!


                                          turned the set off i remeasured those resistors and it still shows 5.5 to 5.6 ohms those are some tough resistors...and removed upper once again and bottom half of screen lights up still... so


                                          most likely dumb question but if i buy a upper buffer is there anything in the y-sustin that could take out the replacement upper buffer? should i check the y-sustin for issues?


                                          my guess would be if it lights up y-sustin is ok most likely but i could be thinking like an idiot again ....???

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