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  • moegilla
    Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 29
    • United States

    #1

    Samsung LN52B630 No picture

    Hello all,
    I have the above mentioned 52 inch LCD TV. It powers on , the screen flashes, then no picture. Audio is fine. No obviously blown caps on power or main board. Any ideas?
    Thank you
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  • infringer
    Badcaps Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 244
    • United Frickin States

    #2
    Re: Samsung LN52B630 No picture

    you have audio but no backlights do you have 24v at your power connections. The connectors should be connect tv to power with cover off laying on the floor do not touch anything else with your hands or anything metal. Stick the probes on the black on the ground and red on the +24 when tv is turned on see what voltage you have.

    Be extremely careful not to touch anything not only could you create a lot more troubleshooting but you could end up in the hospital or dead if you do not exercise the proper precautions.

    Wearing rubber gloves and electrical taping the probes so that only a 1/8th inch of the probe is exposed will surely help your odds of doing this safely.
    Please note: I am not responsible for any harm caused to you anything discussed is just discussion. Before you try anything discussed be sure that you have the appropriate knowledge and safety gear for the job. Like with anything education and safety are first! Do not try anything @ home without it.

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Samsung LN52B630 No picture

      This is power supply-backlights inverter board combination, so it does not use 24VDC for typical separate backlghts inverter setup. The inverter section runs on 400VDC power supply.
      Since this power supply has PFC voltage booster circuits, please check the DC voltage on the two legs of the large DC filter cap (check on either one) 450VDC, when TV is plugged in but not turn on it should have about 165VDC on it, when the TV is turn on and the power board receives the PS_ON from the main board, the voltage on the cap should go up to about 400VDC.
      Can you get closed up pictures of the connectors on the board so I can see the labels on them.
      And as infringer indicated, be real careful since you will be working on the primary side.
      What is the part number on this board?
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • moegilla
        Member
        • Oct 2012
        • 29
        • United States

        #4
        Re: Samsung LN52B630 No picture

        tested the DC filter caps....got 164VDC plugged in not on, and 389VDC plugged in and powered..not sure what you meant by "connectors" so here are a few more pictures of the power board
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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #5
          Re: Samsung LN52B630 No picture

          OK, the PFC is working, so that means the main board is also probably working (as it is sending the right power on signal.) In a dark room, can you see a dim glow from the screen? (Alternatively, on some TVs you can see a white glow from the holes in the back of the LCD panel.)
          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Samsung LN52B630 No picture

            There are connectors with mutiple wires connect to them, ther are lable next to them that tell us what they are (right now they partial blocked). I am looking for BL_ON pin.
            It looks like the pin23 is for INVERTER ON/OFF PIN, check the voltage on that pin.
            Attached Files
            Last edited by budm; 10-18-2012, 10:42 AM.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • moegilla
              Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 29
              • United States

              #7
              Re: Samsung LN52B630 No picture

              how does one go about testing voltage on the pins? Ive attached closer looks at the connectors
              Attached Files

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Samsung LN52B630 No picture

                It is the other connector on the top right of the picture in my post6, black probe on the chassis, and the read probe just poke into the socket of the connector, your probe will have to be skinny one.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • moegilla
                  Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 29
                  • United States

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung LN52B630 No picture

                  which side is odd which even?

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung LN52B630 No picture

                    As you can see from the picture, there is label 1 for the top row (odd number) and 2 on the bottom row (even) in picture of post 6.
                    In picture in your post 7, then it will be the bottom row for odd, top row for even.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • moegilla
                      Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 29
                      • United States

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung LN52B630 No picture

                      figured it out....5.08VDC

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung LN52B630 No picture

                        So pin 23 is 5V, if that is the case, the inverter transformer driver circuit is not working. I only expect about 3.3v or so.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • moegilla
                          Member
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 29
                          • United States

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung LN52B630 No picture

                          any advice on the next step?

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                          • moegilla
                            Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 29
                            • United States

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung LN52B630 No picture

                            im gonna replace the four 1000uf caps see what goes down ill let cha know

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung LN52B630 No picture

                              By the way, is the fuse in the middle of the board OK? This fuse supply the power to the inverter circuit.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                              Comment

                              • moegilla
                                Member
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 29
                                • United States

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung LN52B630 No picture

                                I turned the multimeter to 200 OHM, placed the leads on both sides and I get all sorts of readings , mostly staying from 1-10 but randomly jumps back and forth up to 180 ish and back down....doesnt stay consistent

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung LN52B630 No picture

                                  It should read less than 1 Ohm. Board is not powered right?
                                  Touch your two probes together, it should show less than one Ohm (test probe's resistance). Otherwise, remove the fuse and test it again.
                                  The meter's batteries is OK?
                                  Last edited by budm; 10-18-2012, 10:56 PM.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                  Comment

                                  • moegilla
                                    Member
                                    • Oct 2012
                                    • 29
                                    • United States

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung LN52B630 No picture

                                    So I replaced the 4 caps and replaced both ceramic fuses on the power board and still same issue...

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