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  • adlegs
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    #21
    Re: No Picture or Audio on Insignia NS-LCD26

    Originally posted by budm
    Can we see good clear pictures of both sides of the power board? Also, what is the full model number of this TV, Insignia will have the main model number and follow by the - xx for the year.
    Here are the pics... let me know if they are good. Thx
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    • adlegs
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      #22
      Re: No Picture or Audio on Insignia NS-LCD26

      Originally posted by budm
      Can we see good clear pictures of both sides of the power board? Also, what is the full model number of this TV, Insignia will have the main model number and follow by the - xx for the year.
      here is the info
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      • budm
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        #23
        Re: No Picture or Audio on Insignia NS-LCD26

        Do the connectors on the power supply board has any voltage labels on them to tell us what the pins are?
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        • adlegs
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          #24
          Re: No Picture or Audio on Insignia NS-LCD26

          Originally posted by budm
          Do the connectors on the power supply board has any voltage labels on them to tell us what the pins are?
          No there are no voltage markings on the Power Board. I checked the voltage readings at the Main Board.
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          • adlegs
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            #25
            Re: No Picture or Audio on Insignia NS-LCD26

            Originally posted by adlegs
            No there are no voltage markings on the Power Board. I checked the voltage readings at the Main Board.
            Here are the Main Board connectors
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            • adlegs
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              #26
              Re: No Picture or Audio on Insignia NS-LCD26

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              • budm
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                #27
                Re: No Picture or Audio on Insignia NS-LCD26

                Thanks, good pictures, I can read the labels!
                So the pin you will want to test is the STBY pin of the 11-pin connector of the main board. This pin sends the ON/OFF signal to the power supply board to turn on the 12v/24v power supply section.
                I expect to see 0V when TV is off, and around 3V or more when the TV is powered up. so monitor that pin
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • adlegs
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                  #28
                  Re: No Picture or Audio on Insignia NS-LCD26

                  Originally posted by budm
                  Thanks, good pictures, I can read the labels!
                  So the pin you will want to test is the STBY pin of the 11-pin connector of the main board. This pin sends the ON/OFF signal to the power supply board to turn on the 12v/24v power supply section.
                  I expect to see 0V when TV is off, and around 3V or more when the TV is powered up. so monitor that pin
                  0V off and 3.3V when powered on.

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                  • budm
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                    #29
                    Re: No Picture or Audio on Insignia NS-LCD26

                    OK, the Power supply on is generated OK by the main board, then we need to find out if the the PFC and the 24V power supply do turn on or not, you can see at the bottom of the power supply where the 24V outputs are, see if you do get the 24V there. For the backlights to come on, it needs the 24V that you will be checking, and the BKON signal on the 3-pin connector of the main board as shown in picture #2 of post 26. If you have both of the signal, then the backlights should light up.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • adlegs
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                      #30
                      Re: No Picture or Audio on Insignia NS-LCD26

                      Ok I have the 24V on both pins on pic #1 post#25 but I have nothing on the BKON pin (pin 3). What should I have on the BKON?

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                      • adlegs
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                        #31
                        Re: No Picture or Audio on Insignia NS-LCD26

                        Originally posted by budm
                        OK, the Power supply on is generated OK by the main board, then we need to find out if the the PFC and the 24V power supply do turn on or not, you can see at the bottom of the power supply where the 24V outputs are, see if you do get the 24V there. For the backlights to come on, it needs the 24V that you will be checking, and the BKON signal on the 3-pin connector of the main board as shown in picture #2 of post 26. If you have both of the signal, then the backlights should light up.
                        Ok I have the 24V on both pins on pic #1 post#25 but I have nothing on the BKON pin 0V (pin 3). What should I have on the BKON?
                        Last edited by adlegs; 10-18-2012, 07:59 PM.

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                        • adlegs
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                          #32
                          Re: No Picture or Audio on Insignia NS-LCD26

                          Originally posted by adlegs
                          Ok I have the 24V on both pins on pic #1 post#25 but I have nothing on the BKON pin 0V (pin 3). What should I have on the BKON?
                          Update.... I used a jumper and fed 3.3V to the BKON pin and the backlights came on. So is this a power board or main board issue??

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                          • budm
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                            #33
                            Re: No Picture or Audio on Insignia NS-LCD26

                            That means the main board does not send out the BK_ON signal, good news your power supply and backlights inverter are OK.
                            Next thing will be to find out if any LDO regulators are bad checking the voltages.
                            Since now you have backlights, do you see any pictures on the screen, if it is just the BKON circuit is bad, then you should have everything else working.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • adlegs
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                              #34
                              Re: No Picture or Audio on Insignia NS-LCD26

                              Originally posted by budm
                              That means the main board does not send out the BK_ON signal, good news your power supply and backlights inverter are OK.
                              Next thing will be to find out if any LDO regulators are bad checking the voltages.
                              Since now you have backlights, do you see any pictures on the screen, if it is just the BKON circuit is bad, then you should have everything else working.
                              I only have a back lit screen no picture. It looks like when I apply the 3.3V it just backlights the screen...
                              And thank you for taking your time to assist me in troubleshooting this issue. I really appreciate it!!!
                              Last edited by adlegs; 10-18-2012, 10:09 PM.

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                              • budm
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                                #35
                                Re: No Picture or Audio on Insignia NS-LCD26

                                That means it may be just bad power supply some where on the board. We need to look for fuses and LDO regulator next. How much is the new board for this 26" inch?
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • adlegs
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                                  #36
                                  Re: No Picture or Audio on Insignia NS-LCD26

                                  Originally posted by budm
                                  That means it may be just bad power supply some where on the board. We need to look for fuses and LDO regulator next. How much is the new board for this 26" inch?
                                  I checked the AC fuse on the power supply board? How do I check the LDO regulator?
                                  The power Supply board is $25-$35 If this is the issue I will just purchase a new one.

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                                  • budm
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                                    #37
                                    Re: No Picture or Audio on Insignia NS-LCD26

                                    The power supply board is OK, the power supply section of the main board is the one you have to check.
                                    They are 3-pin device with big tab on the top, I can see one on the left side of the board by the black heatsink.
                                    You just label the pin as 1, 2, and 3 as looking at it with the big tab on top. Measure the voltage on each pin with ref to ground.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • adlegs
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                                      #38
                                      Re: No Picture or Audio on Insignia NS-LCD26

                                      Originally posted by budm
                                      The power supply board is OK, the power supply section of the main board is the one you have to check.
                                      They are 3-pin device with big tab on the top, I can see one on the left side of the board by the black heatsink.
                                      You just label the pin as 1, 2, and 3 as looking at it with the big tab on top. Measure the voltage on each pin with ref to ground.
                                      Left to right pin 1 0V pin 2 3.3V pin 3 5.10V

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                                      • adlegs
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                                        #39
                                        Re: No Picture or Audio on Insignia NS-LCD26

                                        Originally posted by adlegs
                                        Left to right pin 1 0V pin 2 3.3V pin 3 5.10V
                                        pic
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                                        • budm
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                                          #40
                                          Re: No Picture or Audio on Insignia NS-LCD26

                                          That voltage is OK, it is a 3.3V regulator.
                                          Never stop learning
                                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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