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  • jamesfreddie
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    • Aug 2012
    • 47
    • UK

    #1

    Goodmans 26" LCD TV No picture

    I have a goodmans TV that is about 7 years old but the other day the picture went however the sound was still going.

    I left it on the otherday and it had no picture but sound it was left for about 1 hour and then the picture came on.

    I have checked inside and i can't see any bad caps.

    It looks like the backlights are on as you can see a glow behind the screen. And if you tap the screen you can see a displacement of light.

    I can't see any image.

    Please help!!
  • jamesfreddie
    Member
    • Aug 2012
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    #2
    Re: Goodmans 26" LCD TV No picture

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Goodmans 26" LCD TV No picture

      If the backlights are on but no pictures, then more likely the T-CON board may be dead due to blown fuse or not getting voltage from the main board.
      Please post good clear pictures of the back side of the TV so we can see how all the boards are hooked up. The T-CON board is under the metal shield, it should at the top center of the LCD panel.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • jamesfreddie
        Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 47
        • UK

        #4
        Re: Goodmans 26" LCD TV No picture

        Are these pictures OK?





        Last edited by jamesfreddie; 09-19-2012, 11:50 AM.

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #5
          Re: Goodmans 26" LCD TV No picture

          Try pressing on this connector while the TV has no picture and see if the picture comes back.
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          • jamesfreddie
            Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 47
            • UK

            #6
            Re: Goodmans 26" LCD TV No picture

            Originally posted by tom66
            Try pressing on this connector while the TV has no picture and see if the picture comes back.
            Just tried but it didn't make any diffrence.

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            • tom66
              EVs Rule
              • Apr 2011
              • 32560
              • UK

              #7
              Re: Goodmans 26" LCD TV No picture

              OK, do you hear sound when it has no picture, or does it only come back after the picture appears?
              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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              • jamesfreddie
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                • Aug 2012
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                #8
                Re: Goodmans 26" LCD TV No picture

                The sound is always on even when the screen is blank.

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                • tom66
                  EVs Rule
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 32560
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                  #9
                  Re: Goodmans 26" LCD TV No picture

                  OK, can you get a top down shot of the main board? That is the board with the video inputs on it. If possible, don't take it from an angle, and try taking it in daylight (on a window ledge is a good place to try.) I will highlight some tests to make. Also, what is the model number/code of the TV?
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                  • jamesfreddie
                    Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 47
                    • UK

                    #10
                    Re: Goodmans 26" LCD TV No picture

                    I will hopefully get some better pictures up tommorow when its light outside.

                    I might take the TV outside.

                    Model Number: LD2101

                    MP (I assume this is the manafacture date): 061004

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                    • madmatt
                      Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 25
                      • UK

                      #11
                      Re: Goodmans 26" LCD TV No picture

                      Hi James, good luck with this. I have exactly the same issue with my bush 27" LCD tv. Sound but no picture, screen glows on pressure. Mine used to work when I gave it a good thump before turning on sometimes? But not any more

                      On mine there are 2 capacitors that are slightly bulging on the top, so it may be that for me, but how I came across this forum is searching for the pico fuse on the t-con. Now, I've never changed a capacitor in my life, and never even heard of a pico fuse(or a t-con board for that matter) but I would live to fix it for a few pennies if I can.

                      Watching this with interest
                      Best of luck
                      Matt

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                      • madmatt
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                        • Sep 2012
                        • 25
                        • UK

                        #12
                        Re: Goodmans 26" LCD TV No picture

                        Oh, by the way, my board is a 17mb08p-3
                        Same as yours I think?
                        Matt

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                        • jamesfreddie
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                          • Aug 2012
                          • 47
                          • UK

                          #13
                          Re: Goodmans 26" LCD TV No picture

                          Originally posted by madmatt
                          Hi James, good luck with this. I have exactly the same issue with my bush 27" LCD tv. Sound but no picture, screen glows on pressure. Mine used to work when I gave it a good thump before turning on sometimes? But not any more

                          On mine there are 2 capacitors that are slightly bulging on the top, so it may be that for me, but how I came across this forum is searching for the pico fuse on the t-con. Now, I've never changed a capacitor in my life, and never even heard of a pico fuse(or a t-con board for that matter) but I would live to fix it for a few pennies if I can.

                          Watching this with interest
                          Best of luck
                          Matt
                          I went back to it this morning to have another look at it and ran my finger over the caps and found a very slight bulge in one of the caps. I have ordered a replacement which should be here tommorow.

                          Hopefully that will fix it.

                          Have you fixed yours?

                          I looked on ebay and found all 3 boards for £20.

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                          • jamesfreddie
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                            • Aug 2012
                            • 47
                            • UK

                            #14
                            Re: Goodmans 26" LCD TV No picture

                            Originally posted by jamesfreddie
                            I will hopefully get some better pictures up tommorow when its light outside.

                            I might take the TV outside.

                            Model Number: LD2101

                            MP (I assume this is the manafacture date): 061004
                            Should be LD2601 not 21. Oops.

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                            • madmatt
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                              • Sep 2012
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                              #15
                              Re: Goodmans 26" LCD TV No picture

                              Guess what! I've only gone and blummin' done it!
                              Bought 2 1000uf 16v capacitors at 39p each from maplins, got the soldering iron out, and 30 mins later the time came to fire it up. Flicked the power switch expecting a bang/flash but all I got was a fully working telly!
                              First bit of electronics I've ever done! 78p and I feel I've saved £250!almost worth that in satisfaction!
                              The only slight concern I have is the old caps had GF 105 deg C on them, the new ones have 77deg c on them?
                              Is this still ok? Tv blasting out as I type so all good for now !
                              Yippee - I'm one happy chappy!
                              Matt

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                              • tom66
                                EVs Rule
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 32560
                                • UK

                                #16
                                Re: Goodmans 26" LCD TV No picture

                                Those caps won't last (maplin sell crap caps) - they'll be fine for a couple of months, maybe a year... When it fails again, use some better ones like Panasonic FC/FM/FR, they are about 25p each.
                                Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                • jamesfreddie
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                                  • Aug 2012
                                  • 47
                                  • UK

                                  #17
                                  Re: Goodmans 26" LCD TV No picture

                                  Originally posted by madmatt
                                  Guess what! I've only gone and blummin' done it!
                                  Bought 2 1000uf 16v capacitors at 39p each from maplins, got the soldering iron out, and 30 mins later the time came to fire it up. Flicked the power switch expecting a bang/flash but all I got was a fully working telly!
                                  First bit of electronics I've ever done! 78p and I feel I've saved £250!almost worth that in satisfaction!
                                  The only slight concern I have is the old caps had GF 105 deg C on them, the new ones have 77deg c on them?
                                  Is this still ok? Tv blasting out as I type so all good for now !
                                  Yippee - I'm one happy chappy!
                                  Matt
                                  Was that on the same board as this TV? Was it a surface mount?

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                                  • retiredcaps
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Apr 2010
                                    • 9271

                                    #18
                                    Re: Goodmans 26" LCD TV No picture

                                    Originally posted by madmatt
                                    The only slight concern I have is the old caps had GF 105 deg C on them, the new ones have 77deg c on them?
                                    1) Those new caps at 77C will die shortly. See PCBONEZ explain the affects of temperature on a cap

                                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...30&postcount=7

                                    2) My standard advice to people for cap replacement (regulars may skip)

                                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...84&postcount=3
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                                    • tom66
                                      EVs Rule
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Goodmans 26" LCD TV No picture

                                      I doubt they are 77°C, as it's not a standard temperature. Maplin sells mostly 85°C caps. One or two 105°C caps from "NIC" components - but no idea on long term reliability there with them. For some reason they list 1000uF 35V as "motherboard" caps.
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                                      • madmatt
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                                        • Sep 2012
                                        • 25
                                        • UK

                                        #20
                                        Re: Goodmans 26" LCD TV No picture

                                        Originally posted by jamesfreddie
                                        Was that on the same board as this TV? Was it a surface mount?
                                        See my original post mate, pretty sure it's the same board, and yes, surface mount.

                                        To everyone else- thanks for pi55ing on my fire! Tv is working right now, and if it dies at least I know where to look and to replace with better caps
                                        These are the first caps I've bought in my life, and the first tv I've fixed so I'm still chuffed- so there lol!
                                        Matt

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