LG 42" LCD TV 42LG20-UM No video ONLY sound BAD inverter board or bad power board?

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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #41
    Re: LG 42" LCD TV 42LG20-UM No video ONLY sound BAD inverter board or bad power boa

    Are you talking abut the lamps light up half way instead of the full length of the lamp as shown in other thread? If that is the case, it has nothing to do with the UC chip or what ever that is, the lamps are just not getting enough power fully ionize the gas inside the lamps. Master/Slave inverter setup as a push-pull drive to drive the lamps, both of them have to work together.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • arman960
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 129
      • USA

      #42
      Re: LG 42" LCD TV 42LG20-UM No video ONLY sound BAD inverter board or bad power boa

      Hi budm, you said the black F1 fuse might be bad. Do I have to remove the fuse before I jump it with wire?

      I have only 30w soldering iron. But I have ordered one 60w soldering iron. I have not received the fuse yet though. Will jump with wire anyways. But was not sure if it is necessary to remove the fuse or not.

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      • arman960
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 129
        • USA

        #43
        Re: LG 42" LCD TV 42LG20-UM No video ONLY sound BAD inverter board or bad power boa

        hi, budm do I have to remove the F1 black fuse to jump it? or I do it without removing the fuse? Buy the way I have only 30w soldering iron now. But I have ordered one 60w.

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        • vinceroger69
          Badcaps Legend
          • Mar 2012
          • 6714
          • uk

          #44
          Re: LG 42" LCD TV 42LG20-UM No video ONLY sound BAD inverter board or bad power boa

          for now you can just jump the fuse with a piece of wire across the top of the old fuse i would probably use a piece of 3 amp? fuse wire this is only just to test you will still need to change the fuse if this works.

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #45
            Re: LG 42" LCD TV 42LG20-UM No video ONLY sound BAD inverter board or bad power boa

            There is not much room at the end of the fuse on this black fuse, yes that black fues is BAD. This fuse doe not have top solder ends like the white fuse that you can easily solder on the top of the fuse. You can add more solder to the pads to allow you to solder small wire to it.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • vinceroger69
              Badcaps Legend
              • Mar 2012
              • 6714
              • uk

              #46
              Re: LG 42" LCD TV 42LG20-UM No video ONLY sound BAD inverter board or bad power boa

              budm i did not notice that fuse had no top solder ends like the white one also out of intrest what amp would that fuse be? (not saw selldoor on latley hope hes ok)

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #47
                Re: LG 42" LCD TV 42LG20-UM No video ONLY sound BAD inverter board or bad power boa

                I stiil do not know what the lable on the fuse means yet, it has 20 printed on it, on other board I worked on, it has '15' on it, but the silk screen next to it indicates it as 0.75A 75V. What I do is to use DMM and set it to DC Amp, then just put the probes on the two pads and take the current draw reading and add 25% to the number. I think 1A should be fine, I use Littlefuse PICOII axial-lead fuse soldered in place.
                Attached Files
                Last edited by budm; 09-19-2012, 06:18 PM.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • vinceroger69
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 6714
                  • uk

                  #48
                  Re: LG 42" LCD TV 42LG20-UM No video ONLY sound BAD inverter board or bad power boa

                  Originally posted by budm
                  I stiil do not know what the lable on the fuse means yet, it has 20 printed on it, on other board I worked on, it has '15' on it, but the silk screen next to it indicates it as 0.75A 75V. What I do is to use DMM and set it to DC Amp, then just put the probes on the two pads and take the current draw reading and add 25% to the number. I think 1A should be fine, I use Littlefuse PICOII axial-lead fuse soldered in place.
                  thanks for that info budm i am sure it will come in usfull

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                  • arman960
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 129
                    • USA

                    #49
                    Re: LG 42" LCD TV 42LG20-UM No video ONLY sound BAD inverter board or bad power boa

                    budm, problem solved. You are genious. That black fuse was bad. I put one small thin wire to jump the resistor. But it was very difficult , because so small space. But I put extra solder to remove it just like you told me with one 60 watts soldering iron. Now I will have to order the surface mount small fuse from online.

                    Also I do not have the half darker screen at start-up either. Screen is bright all the way.

                    budm I thank you and appreciate your help. You are the best. :-)
                    Last edited by arman960; 09-21-2012, 09:09 PM.

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                    • arman960
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 129
                      • USA

                      #50
                      Re: LG 42" LCD TV 42LG20-UM No video ONLY sound BAD inverter board or bad power boa

                      problem solved. Thanks all of you for helping me.
                      Last edited by arman960; 09-21-2012, 10:16 PM.

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #51
                        Re: LG 42" LCD TV 42LG20-UM No video ONLY sound BAD inverter board or bad power boa

                        Thank for posting the result, the half screen brightness make sense due to only the Slave Inverter was trying to drive the lamp without the Master inverter working.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • arman960
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 129
                          • USA

                          #52
                          Re: LG 42" LCD TV 42LG20-UM No video ONLY sound BAD inverter board or bad power boa

                          budm, have you worked with SANYO DP42746 Plasma tv?

                          I am trying to repair the Y-SUS on this board.
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                          Last edited by arman960; 09-24-2012, 06:48 PM.

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #53
                            Re: LG 42" LCD TV 42LG20-UM No video ONLY sound BAD inverter board or bad power boa

                            I do not repair Plasma TV at all, too heavy to work on it by myself. Tom66 is real good at it.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • arman960
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 129
                              • USA

                              #54
                              Re: LG 42" LCD TV 42LG20-UM No video ONLY sound BAD inverter board or bad power boa

                              yes tom66 looks knowledgeable in plasma tv. But he said he never worked with any board with IPM Y-SUS.This is my first plasma tv that I am working on. And according to copperville tv repair test it seems like my upper buffer board and Y-SUS is bad. I think palsma tv is too heavy and makes too much heat. I will never buy another plasma tv to repair. First and last one.
                              Last edited by arman960; 09-24-2012, 06:56 PM.

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                              • miles69
                                New Member
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 2
                                • USA

                                #55
                                Re: LG 42" LCD TV 42LG20-UM No video ONLY sound BAD inverter board or bad power boa

                                I am new here so I don't know if I should start a new thread or continue with this one. For now I will continue this thread.

                                I have a similar problem with the same 42LG20-UM manufactured in 2009 connected to cable (Charter) and DVD (Sony) through a receiver (Sony) using HDMI.

                                Symptoms have been present for several months and are:

                                1. On start up the right side of the screen is blurry with heavy red color; left is normal

                                2. Clicking on the menu button shows the same problem with the menu screen.

                                3. White text come through clear and sharp on both sides with a slight out of focus at the far right. What should be yellow text is red on the right side and normal on the left. (Fox News has a yellow text crawl with some white text at the bottom.)

                                4. The top of the screen has some horizontal black lines that come and go. This is new starting about 2 weeks ago.

                                5. After about 15 minutes the right side problem goes away but the horizontal line problem remains.

                                I replaced both inverter boards. Things worked good for about 30 seconds and then the problem returned but the horizontal lines now cover the top 1/3 of the screen and are very faint.

                                After reading through this thread I found that F1 was open on both the original and replacement master inverter boards. I am guessing that F1 on the replacement board went out after the 30 seconds of good operation. Any ideas on what might cause F1 to blow would be helpful.

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                                • tom66
                                  EVs Rule
                                  • Apr 2011
                                  • 32560
                                  • UK

                                  #56
                                  Re: LG 42" LCD TV 42LG20-UM No video ONLY sound BAD inverter board or bad power boa

                                  Plasma = easy. If you get help carrying them up the stairs, that is! I need to make a jig for supporting them while servicing, like Randtek uses. Never done an IPM, but I'm getting a 50" to work on Sunday/Monday, so it'll be fun to see how that works out!
                                  Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                  For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                  • miles69
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                                    • Feb 2013
                                    • 2
                                    • USA

                                    #57
                                    Re: LG 42" LCD TV 42LG20-UM No video ONLY sound BAD inverter board or bad power boa

                                    OK, after carefully rereading this thread it seems like bad ballast caps or CCFL. Now the question is "how to breakdown the TV to access this area". The rear panel is off and circuit boards are removed.

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                                    • tom66
                                      EVs Rule
                                      • Apr 2011
                                      • 32560
                                      • UK

                                      #58
                                      Re: LG 42" LCD TV 42LG20-UM No video ONLY sound BAD inverter board or bad power boa

                                      The plastic bezel comes off the front to reveal the LCD panel assembly. From then on it's about 20 small screws to take the frame off, then a careful lifting of the LCD panel out of the TV. The panel is incredibly fragile, so make sure you have enough space for it to go and that it won't be damaged. Then you find the diffuser films and eventually the bulbs themselves.
                                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                      • tramo
                                        Member
                                        • Jan 2014
                                        • 12
                                        • Slovak Republic

                                        #59
                                        Re: LG 42" LCD TV 42LG20-UM No video ONLY sound BAD inverter board or bad power boa

                                        Hi Guys, I have similar problem like in this thread, therefore I don't create new thread. Problem is on LG 32LD320 backlight is off, I see that the LCD is working correct(check with light) sound is also woking(assume that mainboard). It seems that the Power is also correct on pins to inverter is correct 24V but on other pins: Error = 2.2V, PWM_DIM = 0V, INV ON/OFF = 3.3V, BRI = 0V
                                        Is the problem truly on backlight inverter? Could you help me to how to proceed?

                                        Thank you.

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                                        • budm
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Feb 2010
                                          • 40746
                                          • USA

                                          #60
                                          Re: LG 42" LCD TV 42LG20-UM No video ONLY sound BAD inverter board or bad power boa

                                          @tramo, please start the new thread with the model number of your LG 32LD320 TV so we will not get confused with this thread which is for 42LG20-UM. Also upload the pictures of the TV, boards. etc.
                                          Never stop learning
                                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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