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  • drpj23
    Badcaps Veteran
    • May 2012
    • 528
    • USA

    #1

    Lucius & Baer CRT

    Ok so I have this monitor that came out of some machinery. It does not turn on but I have no idea how to work on CRT or rather diagnose.

    I read a little about it on some other posts here but otherwise I need help.

    So it just does not come on but from the other posts, I suppose this has to have a signal in order to even see an image so is there a way I can trick it?

    Two, someone else said they had a dead one and replaced all the caps and it worked. Recommend I do the same or start somewhere else?

    Let me know if you want pics.
  • momaka
    master hoarder
    • May 2008
    • 12175
    • Bulgaria

    #2
    Re: Lucius & Baer CRT

    Pics and model number are always helpful. That way other people know what you have in front of you.

    If the monitor doesn't come ON and doesn't make any noises at all, I would suspect power supply issue. Although before jumping to that, try feeding the monitor with a video signal (PC or whatever else it accepts).

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    • drpj23
      Badcaps Veteran
      • May 2012
      • 528
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Lucius & Baer CRT

      Ya, didn't have a camera at the time sorry...but I will get to that monday.

      And yes it looks like a 14 pin vga so I will try that or figure out the pin layout and go from there.

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      • drpj23
        Badcaps Veteran
        • May 2012
        • 528
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Lucius & Baer CRT

        Well I do have new updates. (will get pictures soon!)

        But, the green light in the front is lit up but no matter if there is a source to it or not it makes a buzzing sound at a constant pulse or in other words (zipp.....zipp.....zipp etc)

        Other than that I will get it apart and let you see it

        oh under the brand it says D-82538 but inside next to the flyback it says CM2300 Philips 14"

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Lucius & Baer CRT

          Does it look like this?
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • drpj23
            Badcaps Veteran
            • May 2012
            • 528
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Lucius & Baer CRT

            Actually it kinda does. I may use that flow chart to help.
            Thanks.

            Um I was also just informed that it was after a move that this stopped working but there's not much connectors (as most wires are soldered on the board) but I guess that may lead to "breaking suspicion".

            Oh there was also no charge on the anode when discharging

            Here are some pics
            Attached Files

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Lucius & Baer CRT

              I would look real close at all the solder joints for small ring (crack) around the component legs, especially on the flyback, transformer, power devices that are mounted on the heat sink, power resistors.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • drpj23
                Badcaps Veteran
                • May 2012
                • 528
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Lucius & Baer CRT

                Ok, so I did check the back for cold solder joints and didn't find really anything but there are a few I am going to re-solder but before that I did find something dripping on the board. It looks like a mass of flux...till you prod it to note it is liquid. Nothing looks to be from external and on the CRT you can see where the wire is corroded.


                Ideas? (to move on or not?)
                Attached Files

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Lucius & Baer CRT

                  Did you look at the case where the openings are to see if you also see some trace of the liquid that have have spilled into the chassis through the vents?
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • drpj23
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • May 2012
                    • 528
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Lucius & Baer CRT

                    I could not see anything that would have come in externally....the spill is under the CRT so I am a little baffled to where it came from.

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                    • momaka
                      master hoarder
                      • May 2008
                      • 12175
                      • Bulgaria

                      #11
                      Re: Lucius & Baer CRT

                      Originally posted by drpj23
                      But, the green light in the front is lit up but no matter if there is a source to it or not it makes a buzzing sound at a constant pulse or in other words (zipp.....zipp.....zipp etc)
                      So no relay clicking or anything else like that? Most CRTs usually turn ON the degauss as soon as you try to turn them ON. I wonder if the power supply is coming up with the proper voltages.

                      Can you be more specific about the constant pulsed "zipp" sound? i.e. is it faint or does it sound like arcing?

                      If you didn't find any bad joints, try checking the power supply voltages. The tube heater (3 to 10V) and B+ (usually around 200V so BE CAREFUL) should come up when you try to turn on the monitor.

                      Also, any chance you can post a picture of the solder side of the main PCB? More particularly under the PSU area - i.e. where that yellow transformer is in this picture:
                      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...4&d=1347329769

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