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  • eTanium
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 65
    • USA

    #1

    Vertical Lines Repairable? LC-46D64U

    I'm looking to buy a TV off of eBay to repair. It has vertical banding (see link or attachments) and what not. I talked with a TV tech about it, and he said, "anything that effects the picture like that, almost 90% of the time, it's the panel, which can't be replaced."

    If the banding could be fixed easily, maybe by just replacing some bulging caps and what not, then I would like to purchase it to fix. I already have a LC-46D64U with a band panel, so I can use that as a parts TV.


    So, the question here is, how much of a gamble would it be to buy this TV off of eBay and expect to be able to repair it? As long as it isn't the panel going bad, I have all the pieces needed to repair it.

    Thanks.
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  • mockingbird
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 5484
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    #2
    Re: Vertical Lines Repairable? LC-46D64U

    Look at the second pic...

    The panel is clearly cracked in the middle...

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    • eTanium
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 65
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Vertical Lines Repairable? LC-46D64U

      Originally posted by mockingbird
      Look at the second pic...

      The panel is clearly cracked in the middle...
      When we say the panel is cracked, we're speaking about the glass, no? Aside from the broken glass, this TV should be working fine, right?

      My other TV that I am using for parts has a 100% perfect glass front panel. The only thing wrong with it is the LCD control board/panel, from what I've been told.

      So, I should be able to make one good working TV out of the two. Please correct me if I am wrong.

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      • multimeter
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Jan 2011
        • 739
        • united kingdom

        #4
        Re: Vertical Lines Repairable? LC-46D64U

        not very often you see a tv with a separate glass panel ,i think this one is a complete lcd panel, glass an all,big gamble im afraid,i would walk away,unless you want it for stock boards/parts,it also could be a tab bonding issue,if it does have a separate glass panel, which would only be a bodge repair,or a tcon issue,to many negatives
        Last edited by multimeter; 05-13-2012, 03:15 PM.
        fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

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        please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #5
          Re: Vertical Lines Repairable? LC-46D64U

          It's definitely a cracked screen. Only worth parts. $190 for that is crazy.

          Sometimes the crack damages the TFT lines driving the transistors, causing lines and dead pixels.
          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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          • eTanium
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 65
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Vertical Lines Repairable? LC-46D64U

            I'm a little confused.


            So, there is the glass panel, and that houses the liquid crystal. If the glass is cracked, the liquid crystals are damaged. The T-con board sends signals to the screen and turns on/off the crystals to display the picture. Is there any other board, that can't be seen from the rear of the TV with the panel off, that interacts with the liquid crystals and the T-Con board? I was under the impression that there was another board that behind all the metal (see attachment).

            I was hoping that I could take that board, if it does exist, and put it into the TV that I already have and have been trying to repair. The TV will turn on, but not display any picture whatsoever. A TV technician told me that the "panel was bad, and the TV isn't worth fixing because you can't just simply buy a replacement panel - you need to find a parts TV with a good one and swap them."

            I was hoping to do buy this TV from e-bay, which I thought had a good panel (and might still, because I am confused on what the panel actually is), and use it to fix my currently broken TV.

            If I could use this eBay TV to fix my currently broken TV, what do you think would be a good price on it?

            Please advise, thanks.

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            • joshnz
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Feb 2011
              • 969
              • New Zealand

              #7
              Re: Vertical Lines Repairable? LC-46D64U

              The panel is the sheet of glass that has the crystals that makes the picture if it has a crack as the one in the picture seems to show no board will fix it.

              With your tv a bad panel won't cause no picture the back lights maybe faulty or a board that controls the panel.
              My pc
              CPU : AMD PHENOM II x4 @ 3.5Ghz
              MB : ASUS M4A89TD PRO USB3
              RAM : Kingston ValueRAM 16gb DDR3
              PSU : Cooler Master 850W Silent Pro
              GPU : ATI Radeon HD 6850

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              • eTanium
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 65
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Vertical Lines Repairable? LC-46D64U

                Originally posted by joshnz
                The panel is the sheet of glass that has the crystals that makes the picture if it has a crack as the one in the picture seems to show no board will fix it.

                With your tv a bad panel won't cause no picture the back lights maybe faulty or a board that controls the panel.
                I was told it wasn't worth trying to fix, but new TV's are out of my price range right now, and my non-working TV has some really good specs to it - I want to bring it back to life if I can, on the cheap.

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                • joshnz
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 969
                  • New Zealand

                  #9
                  Re: Vertical Lines Repairable? LC-46D64U

                  Originally posted by eTanium
                  I was told it wasn't worth trying to fix
                  by one of us here or the tv repairman?
                  My pc
                  CPU : AMD PHENOM II x4 @ 3.5Ghz
                  MB : ASUS M4A89TD PRO USB3
                  RAM : Kingston ValueRAM 16gb DDR3
                  PSU : Cooler Master 850W Silent Pro
                  GPU : ATI Radeon HD 6850

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Vertical Lines Repairable? LC-46D64U

                    It has cracked LCD panel, walk away from it unless you want to spend a lot on money for new LCD panel assembly.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • eTanium
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 65
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Vertical Lines Repairable? LC-46D64U

                      Originally posted by joshnz
                      by one of us here or the tv repairman?
                      A Sharp Certified technician.

                      Originally posted by budm
                      It has cracked LCD panel, walk away from it unless you want to spend a lot on money for new LCD panel assembly.
                      I still think the panel on my non-working TV is good (not cracked, and was working fine one day, and dead the next. A panel doesn't just die completely like that, does it? I thought if the whole thing fails to display a picture, that is most likely an internal board issue, and not the panel itself.

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                      • joshnz
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 969
                        • New Zealand

                        #12
                        Re: Vertical Lines Repairable? LC-46D64U

                        Originally posted by eTanium
                        A panel doesn't just die completely like that, does it? I thought if the whole thing fails to display a picture, that is most likely an internal board issue, and not the panel itself.
                        That is correct from what I understand.
                        With your tv does the power light come on or do anything?
                        My pc
                        CPU : AMD PHENOM II x4 @ 3.5Ghz
                        MB : ASUS M4A89TD PRO USB3
                        RAM : Kingston ValueRAM 16gb DDR3
                        PSU : Cooler Master 850W Silent Pro
                        GPU : ATI Radeon HD 6850

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                        • eTanium
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 65
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Vertical Lines Repairable? LC-46D64U

                          Originally posted by joshnz
                          That is correct from what I understand.
                          With your tv does the power light come on or do anything?
                          Yes, the power light comes on, but throws an error. I can get it to boot into service menu (or so I believe), but there is no picture. I have another thread open on this TV. I was hoping to take the panel out of my non-working TV and put it into the one that I was thinking of buying off of eBay.

                          I have replaced the power supply board, the main board, and the tuner board, but it still doesn't boot with any picture/sound.

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                          • joshnz
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 969
                            • New Zealand

                            #14
                            Re: Vertical Lines Repairable? LC-46D64U

                            well you never got back to the guy in this thread https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19700
                            or this one https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20032

                            What does the error message point to.
                            My pc
                            CPU : AMD PHENOM II x4 @ 3.5Ghz
                            MB : ASUS M4A89TD PRO USB3
                            RAM : Kingston ValueRAM 16gb DDR3
                            PSU : Cooler Master 850W Silent Pro
                            GPU : ATI Radeon HD 6850

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Vertical Lines Repairable? LC-46D64U

                              I am talking about the panel as shown on the picture in post 1.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • joshnz
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 969
                                • New Zealand

                                #16
                                Re: Vertical Lines Repairable? LC-46D64U

                                Anyway getting that tv from ebay will be no help to you.
                                My pc
                                CPU : AMD PHENOM II x4 @ 3.5Ghz
                                MB : ASUS M4A89TD PRO USB3
                                RAM : Kingston ValueRAM 16gb DDR3
                                PSU : Cooler Master 850W Silent Pro
                                GPU : ATI Radeon HD 6850

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                                • eTanium
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Mar 2012
                                  • 65
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Vertical Lines Repairable? LC-46D64U

                                  Originally posted by joshnz
                                  well you never got back to the guy in this thread https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19700
                                  or this one https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20032

                                  What does the error message point to.
                                  Originally posted by budm
                                  I am talking about the panel as shown on the picture in post 1.



                                  I was not able to answer the questions on the post about my non-working TV, due to the fact that the TV was at the repair man's shop. I got it back yesterday, and was told that it had a bad panel.

                                  I looked on eBay and found the same model TV, hoping that it would have a good panel that I could swap with my TV's bad panel.

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                                  • vinceroger69
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Mar 2012
                                    • 6714
                                    • uk

                                    #18
                                    Re: Vertical Lines Repairable? LC-46D64U

                                    did you bid on this in the end the winning bid 190.00 us dollars.

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