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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #61
    Re: This guy has an RCA 42PA30RQ

    I actually have the boards in front of me ripped out of a Wii victim
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    • Bling23
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 153
      • USA

      #62
      Re: This guy has an RCA 42PA30RQ

      over view shot for all the viewers
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      • Bling23
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 153
        • USA

        #63
        Re: This guy has an RCA 42PA30RQ

        Update with this plasma. I checked my Y-main and came across 4 out of 8 mosfets and Transistors shorted out. I ordered replacements and soldered them onto the Y main board and I have the same problem. As a plan B, I ordered a Y-main board to swap out. I'm praying this fixes the problem.

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        • Bling23
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 153
          • USA

          #64
          Re: This guy has an RCA 42PA30RQ

          Ok. So I replaced the Y-main and the Y buffer board today. With all the connectors in their appropriate places, I was still getting the multiple on and off from the power supply. Basically the problem had not changed. So I started my process of elimination by disconnecting the connectors for each board until I isolated the problem. Before the x-main and Y buffer board swap out, I was not getting any Va/Vs voltage at the PSU pin connectors. So, I disconnected the X-Main board first to see if I would get Va/Vs from the PSU with everything connected minus the X-Main...sure enough I am getting 207 Vs and 54 Va. Also now without the X-main connected, I don't get the multiple on and off from the power supply relays. So I'm going to try my hand at checking the X-main for any shorted components and try to repair the X-main. But as a back up..I ordered a replacement X-main board. Oh I connected my oscilloscope up to the new Y-main board as Tom66 explained and I'm getting Vmax =44.0V....Vmin =-60.0V Vrms=54.5V Vavg =54.4V Vpp= 12-16V

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          • Bling23
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 153
            • USA

            #65
            Re: This guy has an RCA 42PA30RQ

            Photo of the voltage readings from Oscilloscope
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            • tom66
              EVs Rule
              • Apr 2011
              • 32560
              • UK

              #66
              Re: This guy has an RCA 42PA30RQ

              Definitely not working. You should be seeing a wave not a static DC voltage. I am aware that these boards will give out a DC voltage just after they are turned off. This may be your problem - a protection circuit tripping. Or the y-main is faulty.
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              • Bling23
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 153
                • USA

                #67
                Re: This guy has an RCA 42PA30RQ

                Now I'm confused...I replaced the y-main and Y-buffer and I'm getting correct vs and va without the relay switching on and off

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                • Bling23
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 153
                  • USA

                  #68
                  Re: This guy has an RCA 42PA30RQ

                  Does that mean I purchased a bad Y-main??

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                  • Bling23
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 153
                    • USA

                    #69
                    Re: This guy has an RCA 42PA30RQ

                    I think it's a protection circuit tripping but how do I find out where or what it is? That's going to be a challenge

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #70
                      Re: This guy has an RCA 42PA30RQ

                      With X-main removed you should see some brief pulses on the Y-main output -- do you?
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                      • Bling23
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 153
                        • USA

                        #71
                        Re: This guy has an RCA 42PA30RQ

                        Maybe I'm hooking up the oscilloscope wrong on the cap. I attached the probe to the topmost lead as its installed on the board. Confirm I'm to take the ground clip and attach it to ground on chassis ? Or don't connect to ground?

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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #72
                          Re: This guy has an RCA 42PA30RQ

                          Scope should be grounded. Can you show me a pic of where you are attaching it to?
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                          • Bling23
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 153
                            • USA

                            #73
                            Re: This guy has an RCA 42PA30RQ

                            sure can but can i was just probing around the primary side of the PSU and this is what I have on the two diodes
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                            • Bling23
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 153
                              • USA

                              #74
                              Re: This guy has an RCA 42PA30RQ

                              also when i plug the tV power in, this is the wave from from the transrfomer on the Y-main before the second power of click happens and then it flat lines
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                              • tom66
                                EVs Rule
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 32560
                                • UK

                                #75
                                Re: This guy has an RCA 42PA30RQ

                                Were you on 1X or 10X?
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                                • Bling23
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Dec 2012
                                  • 153
                                  • USA

                                  #76
                                  Re: This guy has an RCA 42PA30RQ

                                  i was on 10x

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                                  • tom66
                                    EVs Rule
                                    • Apr 2011
                                    • 32560
                                    • UK

                                    #77
                                    Re: This guy has an RCA 42PA30RQ

                                    Were you probing on the primary or secondary?
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                                    • Bling23
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Dec 2012
                                      • 153
                                      • USA

                                      #78
                                      Re: This guy has an RCA 42PA30RQ

                                      That wave from was by me just placing the tip of the probe on top of the transformer on the Y Main, and this how I set up the probe to to ground when checking the cap
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                                      • tom66
                                        EVs Rule
                                        • Apr 2011
                                        • 32560
                                        • UK

                                        #79
                                        Re: This guy has an RCA 42PA30RQ

                                        That indicates the transformer's being driven, which more or less means that it's working. Please can you try the measurement for the capacitor on 500ms/div. Set the scope up so trace sweeps left to right (put horizontal position on the lefthand side.) Press STOP, plug TV in, then press RUN immediately after doing this, then once the trace nearly reaches the end, press STOP, and show me what it looks like. Note that the Rigol has a USB port, so you can upload the bitmaps it makes directly instead of taking a picture.
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                                        • Bling23
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Dec 2012
                                          • 153
                                          • USA

                                          #80
                                          Re: This guy has an RCA 42PA30RQ

                                          ok..i'm setting it up..

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