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  • sienoki
    sienoki
    • Jan 2012
    • 314

    #41
    Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

    Heres a pic..thx
    http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/...5/P1000843.jpg

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #42
      Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

      OK, the next step is to find out if the PIN 1 (VDD) of the FAN7711 is getting the voltage feeding it, I have a hard time tracing out where it goes to in the pictures.
      Attached Files
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • sienoki
        sienoki
        • Jan 2012
        • 314

        #43
        Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

        Originally posted by budm
        OK, the next step is to find out if the PIN 1 (VDD) of the FAN7711 is getting the voltage feeding it, I have a hard time tracing out where it goes to in the pictures.
        Does this pic help..thx
        http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/...5/P1000846.jpg

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #44
          Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

          I saw that picture but not sure if pin 1 is connected to R976, JUMPER J152 and then goes down some where in the bottom right of the picture, we just need to verify if we do have DC power feeding the VDD PIN1 of the IC or not.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • sienoki
            sienoki
            • Jan 2012
            • 314

            #45
            Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

            Originally posted by budm
            I saw that picture but not sure if pin 1 is connected to R976, JUMPER J152 and then goes down some where in the bottom right of the picture, we just need to verify if we do have DC power feeding the VDD PIN1 of the IC or not.
            How am i testing pin1..tv on black probe ground screw red pin1..thx
            Im getting 14.96vdc with tv on
            Last edited by sienoki; 03-04-2012, 08:09 PM.

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #46
              Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

              Black lead to the ground pin4 (GND) of the IC, Red probe to pin 1 (VDD), just do not touch ANY METAL PART OF THE PROBE OR CHASSIS DURING THIS MEASUREMENT IN CASE YOU SLIP SINCE WE ARE WORKING ON THE AC PRIMARY SIDE OF THE CIRCUIT!
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • sienoki
                sienoki
                • Jan 2012
                • 314

                #47
                Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                Originally posted by budm
                Black lead to the ground pin4 (GND) of the IC, Red probe to pin 1 (VDD), just do not touch ANY METAL PART OF THE PROBE OR CHASSIS DURING THIS MEASUREMENT IN CASE YOU SLIP SINCE WE ARE WORKING ON THE AC PRIMARY SIDE OF THE CIRCUIT!
                It measures 15.00vdc

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #48
                  Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                  And It is not there when you turn off the power switch? The 15vdc is correct since there is 15V Zener inside the IC.
                  At this point, it can be the IC is bad since it has the voltage but not sending out the drive signals (PIN 5, 7) to the two Gates of the MOSFET's. One thing I am not sure what those components on the left top corner are for yet. If you do have the 400Vdc feeding the MOSFET's, then I would try new IC.
                  Attached Files
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • sienoki
                    sienoki
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 314

                    #49
                    Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                    Originally posted by budm
                    And It is not there when you turn off the power switch? The 15vdc is correct since there is 15V Zener inside the IC.
                    At this point, it can be the IC is bad since it has the voltage but not sending out the drive signals (PIN 5, 7) to the two Gates of the MOSFET's. One thing I am not sure what those components on the left top corner are for yet. If you do have the 400Vdc feeding the MOSFET's, then I would try new IC.
                    Thx for your time & being patient with me..im getting 392vdc measured with fluke..theres this repair kit..do i need it all?
                    http://www.chsinteractive.co.uk/elec...3-q814-s-c.htm
                    I cant find the IC830 FAN7711 in my farnells catolouge..thx

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #50
                      Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                      eBay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_fr...All-Categories
                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                      • sienoki
                        sienoki
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 314

                        #51
                        Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                        Thx tom..should i recap all the board or just try this IC first..ive been reading about the 4 block caps 2 red & 2 grey..thx

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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #52
                          Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                          Originally posted by sienoki
                          Thx tom..should i recap all the board or just try this IC first..ive been reading about the 4 block caps 2 red & 2 grey..thx
                          Try that for now as it will eliminate a possible cause.
                          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
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                          • sienoki
                            sienoki
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 314

                            #53
                            Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                            Originally posted by tom66
                            Try that for now as it will eliminate a possible cause.
                            Thx fella..ordered the IC will get back to you guys when installed..thx

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                            • sienoki
                              sienoki
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 314

                              #54
                              Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                              Originally posted by sienoki
                              Thx fella..ordered the IC will get back to you guys when installed..thx
                              IC came today still no backlight..where to next?..thx

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                              • tom66
                                EVs Rule
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 32560
                                • UK

                                #55
                                Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                                Originally posted by sienoki
                                IC came today still no backlight..where to next?..thx
                                Any big resistors connected to the source pin of the MOSFET? Can't see them from your pic. Might be O/C.
                                Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
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                                • sienoki
                                  sienoki
                                  • Jan 2012
                                  • 314

                                  #56
                                  Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                                  Originally posted by tom66
                                  Any big resistors connected to the source pin of the MOSFET? Can't see them from your pic. Might be O/C.
                                  Hi tom..do these pics help..thx
                                  http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/...5/P1000867.jpg
                                  http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/...5/P1000872.jpg
                                  http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/...5/P1000871.jpg
                                  http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/...5/P1000873.jpg

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                                  • sienoki
                                    sienoki
                                    • Jan 2012
                                    • 314

                                    #57
                                    Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                                    Is it the 2 smd resistors 103 & 330 if so they measure Q813-103=10.2 & 330=33.7 in circuit
                                    Q814-103=10.03 & 330=34.0
                                    The big resistor R971-red-red-silver-gold which is 0.22 only measures 00.8 thats in circuit shall i pull 1 leg..thx
                                    Last edited by sienoki; 03-06-2012, 08:43 AM.

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                                    • sienoki
                                      sienoki
                                      • Jan 2012
                                      • 314

                                      #58
                                      Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                                      Originally posted by sienoki
                                      Is it the 2 smd resistors 103 & 330 if so they measure Q813-103=10.2 & 330=33.7 in circuit
                                      Q814-103=10.03 & 330=34.0
                                      The big resistor R971-red-red-silver-gold which is 0.22 only measures 00.8 thats in circuit shall i pull 1 leg..thx
                                      Do i need the other items in this kit..thx
                                      http://www.ohmsupplies.co.uk/17PW26-...-Q813/Q814-S/C
                                      R971 1 leg pulled reads 02.4 is this O/C..thx
                                      Last edited by sienoki; 03-06-2012, 09:05 AM.

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                                      • tom66
                                        EVs Rule
                                        • Apr 2011
                                        • 32560
                                        • UK

                                        #59
                                        Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                                        Originally posted by sienoki
                                        Is it the 2 smd resistors 103 & 330 if so they measure Q813-103=10.2 & 330=33.7 in circuit
                                        Q814-103=10.03 & 330=34.0
                                        The big resistor R971-red-red-silver-gold which is 0.22 only measures 00.8 thats in circuit shall i pull 1 leg..thx
                                        Probably not the SMDs, R971 is likely the sense resistor. Don't worry about pulling it for now, what does you meter read when the leads are touched?

                                        Also check the two diodes for s/c looks like it's a two-switch forward converter. Big improvement on the old half-bridge Vestel designs which had huge reliability problems.

                                        C878 could also be faulty but unlikely just looks like a snubber.
                                        Last edited by tom66; 03-06-2012, 11:19 AM.
                                        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
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                                        • sienoki
                                          sienoki
                                          • Jan 2012
                                          • 314

                                          #60
                                          Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                                          Originally posted by tom66
                                          Probably not the SMDs, R971 is likely the sense resistor. Don't worry about pulling it for now, what does you meter read when the leads are touched?

                                          Also check the two diodes for s/c looks like it's a two-switch forward converter. Big improvement on the old half-bridge Vestel designs which had huge reliability problems.

                                          C878 could also be faulty but unlikely just looks like a snubber.
                                          Tom ive come across this what do you think..the 3 resistors in parallel r817-818-819..ive got 3 new same value from another kit that i didnt need...
                                          When it mensions D861-Q841 & C904 they are print side right alongside the 24vpin out & thatD861 marking AP has readings both ways as i mentioned earlier in this thread..thx
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                                          Last edited by sienoki; 03-06-2012, 11:36 AM.

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