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  • retiredcaps
    Badcaps Legend
    • Apr 2010
    • 9271

    #61
    Re: Philips 42PFL5432D/37

    Originally posted by PoteauPets
    Hey Retired, Just took a look at the two caps I replaced and one has already bloated !!
    What is causing that?
    Let's see a picture of it.
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    • PoteauPets
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 65

      #62
      Re: Philips 42PFL5432D/37

      Here are a few pics. I put a red arrow over the new cap that is now bad.
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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
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        #63
        Re: Philips 42PFL5432D/37

        Did you put it in the right way? Negative to negative? Looks like it is reversed.
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        • retiredcaps
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          • Apr 2010
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          #64
          Re: Philips 42PFL5432D/37

          Originally posted by tom66
          Looks like it is reversed.
          I suspected that, but wanted to see a picture for confirmation. It is reversed when compared to the original picture at

          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...7&d=1325569041

          Notice how both negative (the one with the stripe) side is facing towards the RoHS label.

          If this cap were put in backwards in the power supply, it would have popped immediately.

          Well, good thing you ordered a spare!
          Last edited by retiredcaps; 01-21-2012, 04:45 AM.
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          • tom66
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            • Apr 2011
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            #65
            Re: Philips 42PFL5432D/37

            Either way, it looks like those capacitors are for the audio output. Probably not critical to the operation of the TV. (Might make the audio not sound as good, though.)
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            • retiredcaps
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              • Apr 2010
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              #66
              Re: Philips 42PFL5432D/37

              Originally posted by tom66
              Either way, it looks like those capacitors are for the audio output. Probably not critical to the operation of the TV.
              Agreed. Post #57 advice/recommendation still stands. This is in addition to the newly bloated cap on the main board.

              edit:

              Just so it is clear to the OP, these Capxon caps (circled in red) on the power board are the ones likely to supply power to the master and slave inverter boards (the missing 24V DC). Even though they are not bloated, they could be low on capacitance.

              In lay terms, it is just like you cannot tell if an AA battery is dead or not by looking at it.

              PS. Of course, regulars here will recommend changing all the caps, but we have to consider her inexperience in soldering.
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              Last edited by retiredcaps; 01-21-2012, 06:39 AM.
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              • tom66
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                #67
                Re: Philips 42PFL5432D/37

                Changing capacitors on a single layer board is not difficult especially if the OP has succeeded at changing them on a 4 layer (at least) board. I was a noob to soldering before I started repairing stuff and I still struggle to repair 2 layer boards.
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                • PoteauPets
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 65

                  #68
                  Re: Philips 42PFL5432D/37

                  Notice how both negative (the one with the stripe) side is facing towards the RoHS label........

                  Yep, I see it.......

                  And not only did I order ONE extra, I ordered ONE MORE EXTRA EXTRA...lol

                  So, the green caps on the power board need to be re-capped? That group of 3 measures abt. 1/2" x 1 3/8" tall, or 13x35, but the only thing I can see on them until I take them out is GF 105 P724.

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                  • PoteauPets
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 65

                    #69
                    Re: Philips 42PFL5432D/37

                    Was re-reading our previous posts. The info for the capXons on the power board are for the 1500uv35 (group of 3) 2200uF16v (single)
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                    • PoteauPets
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 65

                      #70
                      Re: Philips 42PFL5432D/37

                      BTW, to clarify some lingo that you guys are using.........
                      What is a single layer board, 2 layer board, 4 layer board, and what is OP ?

                      THANX GUYS YOU ARE SOOO AWESOME !!!!!!!

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                      • bbjunkie
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 301

                        #71
                        Re: Philips 42PFL5432D/37

                        Originally posted by PoteauPets
                        BTW, to clarify some lingo that you guys are using.........
                        What is a single layer board,
                        A board with single layer of copper tracks, like your power supply. Copper tracks on the bottom only.

                        2 layer board,
                        A board with copper tracks on the upper and lower side.

                        4 layer board,
                        Like a 2 layer board, only with an additional 2 layers of copper tracks inside the board that can't be seen.

                        and what is OP ?
                        Original Poster (you in this case)

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                        • PoteauPets
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 65

                          #72
                          Re: Philips 42PFL5432D/37

                          Originally posted by PoteauPets
                          Was re-reading our previous posts. The info for the capXons on the power board are for the 1500uv35 (group of 3) 2200uF16v (single)
                          Would these be the correct parts numbers to order replacements. I want to make sure I get the right type, size, etc..


                          This is (hopefully, the right one) for the 1500v35 Group of 3....

                          http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...27483128860735

                          Still looking for the 16v.

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                          • PoteauPets
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 65

                            #73
                            Re: Philips 42PFL5432D/37

                            Possibly the one to replace the 2200uF16v
                            http://search.digikey.com/us/en/prod...2369-ND/613730

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                            • tom66
                              EVs Rule
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 32560
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                              #74
                              Re: Philips 42PFL5432D/37

                              First link is broken but second is perfect. Panasonic FM are good for these power supplies.
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                              • PoteauPets
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                                • Jan 2012
                                • 65

                                #75
                                Re: Philips 42PFL5432D/37

                                How bout this one for the group of three?

                                http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...27540165450379
                                Last edited by PoteauPets; 01-21-2012, 03:09 PM. Reason: error

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                                • tom66
                                  EVs Rule
                                  • Apr 2011
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                                  #76
                                  Re: Philips 42PFL5432D/37

                                  Still getting "part not found" for that link...

                                  35V to replace 16V is fine (the rated voltage is just the maximum voltage the capacitor can work at); but check the dimensions as a higher rated voltage will mean a bigger capacitor size.
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                                  • PoteauPets
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Jan 2012
                                    • 65

                                    #77
                                    Re: Philips 42PFL5432D/37

                                    The number @ digikey is P12369-ND

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                                    • retiredcaps
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                                      • Apr 2010
                                      • 9271

                                      #78
                                      Re: Philips 42PFL5432D/37

                                      Originally posted by PoteauPets
                                      The number @ digikey is P12369-ND
                                      Panasonic FM is fine for the 2200uF 16V.

                                      I would recommend these United Chemi-con KZE for the 1500uF 35V caps.

                                      http://search.digikey.com/us/en/prod...1700-ND/756216

                                      They are almost half the cost of Panasonic FR and they will fit. The FR is 16mm diameter and a whopping $1.74 each. UCC KZE are good caps as well.

                                      BTW, the 2200uF 16V cap is obviously not part of the 24V rail because of the cap rating. The group of 3 are rated at 35V and provide the 24V DC output for the inverters.
                                      Last edited by retiredcaps; 01-21-2012, 05:23 PM.
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                                      • retiredcaps
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                                        • Apr 2010
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                                        #79
                                        Re: Philips 42PFL5432D/37

                                        Originally posted by bbjunkie
                                        A board with single layer of copper tracks, like your power supply. Copper tracks on the bottom only.
                                        The significance of this is that more copper acts as a heatsink as it soaks up all the heat from the soldering iron making it harder to desolder the capacitor. So recapping a power board (single layer) will be easier than a motherboard (possibly 4 or more layers).

                                        Now the decision you have to make is do you replace ALL the caps on the power board or just the larger Capxon ones (1500uF 35V and 2200uF 16V)?

                                        Most of us here would recommend the former and then you know all the caps are high quality brand name ones.
                                        Last edited by retiredcaps; 01-21-2012, 05:25 PM.
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                                        • PoteauPets
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                                          #80
                                          Re: Philips 42PFL5432D/37

                                          I would recommend these United Chemi-con KZE for the 1500uF 35V caps.

                                          http://search.digikey.com/us/en/prod...1700-ND/756216

                                          They are almost half the cost of Panasonic FR and they will fit. The FR is 16mm diameter and a whopping $1.74 each. UCC KZE are good caps as well.

                                          I Put these on my order, thank you. I am posting a list of all the other CapXons that I need.

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