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  • ph445
    Member
    • Oct 2023
    • 10
    • Hungary

    #1

    Philips 40PFH6510/88 not powering on

    Hello,

    I have a Philips 40PFH6510/88 TV which is not switching on. No no standby led, no nothing. There was no bang, no smoke, it was simply switched off and next day it did not switch on.

    I got the power PCB out and visually checked it, I did not see anything unusal on it, the fuse is OK and no cracked, burned components on either side, capacitors looks OK to me.

    Both big 450V capacitors are charging up to around 330V but on the secondary side I can't get any reasonal voltage on any output pins. Most are around 0.2-0.3 V. (not sure which one is standby, but I think standby should be above this level)

    I checked all 3 optocouplers, not shorted. I checked all diodes I thought to be a diode, all good.

    I replaced 1 FET (K22A10N1) I thought was not OK, but nothing changed. (probably was a waste of time it was good)

    I checked what is happening on the transformers' primary side on oscilloscope: nothing, except every 10-12 seconds there's some AC voltage for a couple milliseconds and it goes back to nothing.

    Service manual: here

    Thanks for any ideas, hoping to learn from this a lot
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  • nomoresonys
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jan 2013
    • 12075
    • U.S.

    #2
    Re: Philips 40PFH6510/88 not powering on

    You probably checked all the transistors for shorts/low ohms.

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    • zwarder
      Member
      • Oct 2013
      • 45
      • United Kingdom

      #3
      Re: Philips 40PFH6510/88 not powering on

      The large surface mount diode on bottom of board could be shorted, I have had that fault with similar philips psu. Your pictures are not clear enough

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      • Diah
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2013
        • 6341
        • Germany

        #4
        Re: Philips 40PFH6510/88 not powering on

        known issue; at this area.. R- Open or changed Value Fet. caps.
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        • ph445
          Member
          • Oct 2023
          • 10
          • Hungary

          #5
          Re: Philips 40PFH6510/88 not powering on

          Thanks for all of you for ideas, I will check these and come back.
          I'll try to make better pictures.

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          • ph445
            Member
            • Oct 2023
            • 10
            • Hungary

            #6
            Re: Philips 40PFH6510/88 not powering on

            Originally posted by zwarder
            The large surface mount diode on bottom of board could be shorted, I have had that fault with similar philips psu. Your pictures are not clear enough

            Hmm, this looks like shorted.
            I order one and get back.
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            • ph445
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              • Oct 2023
              • 10
              • Hungary

              #7
              Re: Philips 40PFH6510/88 not powering on

              Originally posted by Diah
              known issue; at this area.. R- Open or changed Value Fet. caps.
              Maybe I should not test it in the PCB, but it doesn't look like a fet according to the tester.

              It the diode replacement doesn't help I will solder this out and test it again.
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              • nomoresonys
                Badcaps Legend
                • Jan 2013
                • 12075
                • U.S.

                #8
                Re: Philips 40PFH6510/88 not powering on

                Apparently it's a diode, whats the designator beside it, does it start with a D or Q, D for diode, Q for transistor/mosfet. Hard for someone to tell what they are without good sharp focused pictures.

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                • ph445
                  Member
                  • Oct 2023
                  • 10
                  • Hungary

                  #9
                  Re: Philips 40PFH6510/88 not powering on

                  Originally posted by nomoresonys
                  Apparently it's a diode, whats the designator beside it, does it start with a D or Q, D for diode, Q for transistor/mosfet. Hard for someone to tell what they are without good sharp focused pictures.
                  It's a k11a65d, should be an N channel FET.

                  It's label on PCB is Q9301
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                  Last edited by ph445; 10-25-2023, 06:25 AM.

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                  • lotas
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Jan 2016
                    • 4457
                    • Russia

                    #10
                    Re: Philips 40PFH6510/88 not powering on

                    You can also see there that this is a Diode: Schottky rectifier, SMD, 100V, 5A
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                    • ph445
                      Member
                      • Oct 2023
                      • 10
                      • Hungary

                      #11
                      Re: Philips 40PFH6510/88 not powering on

                      Originally posted by lotas
                      You can also see there that this is a Diode: Schottky rectifier, SMD, 100V, 5A
                      Thanks - also for nomoresonys - I already learnt a lot

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                      • ph445
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                        • Oct 2023
                        • 10
                        • Hungary

                        #12
                        Re: Philips 40PFH6510/88 not powering on

                        Look like replacing the 100V diode solved the issue, I see normal voltages on the DC side.

                        But my soldering sucks. I tried to apply generous amount of solder, but it's skewed.
                        Should I start again (not lazy but afraid of too much heat to the diode) or is it good enough?
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                        • lotas
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                          • Jan 2016
                          • 4457
                          • Russia

                          #13
                          Re: Philips 40PFH6510/88 not powering on

                          Leave it like that, it will work

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                          • ph445
                            Member
                            • Oct 2023
                            • 10
                            • Hungary

                            #14
                            Re: Philips 40PFH6510/88 not powering on

                            Originally posted by lotas
                            Leave it like that, it will work
                            Thanks.

                            I'll try it in the TV tomorrow.

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                            • ph445
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                              • Oct 2023
                              • 10
                              • Hungary

                              #15
                              Re: Philips 40PFH6510/88 not powering on

                              Thank you all, the TV is working!

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                              • nomoresonys
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 12075
                                • U.S.

                                #16
                                Re: Philips 40PFH6510/88 not powering on

                                Thank you very much for the followup, there's SOO many rude crude people that don't do it, nice save.

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