Antec PowerCache

[PCBONEZ]

Re: Antec PowerCache

a shill is still a shill.
didnt antecrep leave here with his ass on fire?

OH YES - HE DID!
I was far from the only one one throwing Fireballs at 'em too.
He tried spewing his happy-happy joy-joy 'fool the consumer' BS in a forum full of techs that fix PSU's and have a clue how they work.
He should have changed his handle to antec-target when he tried to pull that one off.
He had more cross hairs on his ass than a 12 point buck wandering through an NRA convention.
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[MixMasta]

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Feed me an Antec Rep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yYEX9dV34I

[Oklahoma Wolf]

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Somebody got himself a review sample. Without spoiling too much of the review (hoping to get it done for Sunday), I can tell you all this - the Power Cache capacitors are necessary for the TPQ 1200W. The 12V goes nuts on the scope without them.

[i4004]

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but additional caps are not needed on other high watts models from other mfrs, right?

which would suggest design is flawed. and that was just attempt to fix what could be fixed, by adding caps outside the psu case.

[Oklahoma Wolf]

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Right. The massive Silverstone 1500W I reviewed a couple weeks ago needed no such thing, and it's even from the same OEM as this unit.

This one stayed in spec at all times, but without the Power Cache cables I saw the 12V swing from 30-70mV at regular intervals. With the PC cables, it stayed at 30mV.

[Toasty]

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>>...the Power Cache capacitors are necessary for the TPQ 1200W. The 12V goes nuts on the scope without them.<<

Under load?

Wait, what do I care. I'm not buying Antec crap anymore.

[PCBONEZ]

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Somebody got himself a review sample. Without spoiling too much of the review (hoping to get it done for Sunday), I can tell you all this - the Power Cache capacitors are necessary for the TPQ 1200W. The 12V goes nuts on the scope without them.

Antec designed themselves into a box there proper filter caps won't fit.
~ Imagine that!!!

[Oklahoma Wolf]

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Heh - it's a big enough box. Not as big as the Silverstone 1500, but getting up there. Can't wait to pull it apart and see what's in there that mandated moving the caps onto the cables.

Some of the modular cables don't have the extra capacitors on them. Not sure how wise a move that is.

[i4004]

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>Can't wait to pull it apart and see what's in there that mandated moving the caps onto the cables.

not enough capacitance in the box?
hehe....

do you remember values that some other high watts psus had on the 12V rail?
or at least do you have good pics of those, to augment brain memory...

also, give antec a trick question: who designed pi filter on this one?

[Oklahoma Wolf]

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Not right offhand - the Silverstone had a whole row of extra tall Teapo 3300's on the secondary as I recall. Six of them, I think, for all 8 12V rails.

[ratdude747]

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dang, antec has REALLY drank the cup o' fail on this one. even powmax can make one work (for a short while) that has no external caps. and powmax is TONS cheaper than antec.


edit- link to antecrep's demise: https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3246

[Oklahoma Wolf]

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dang, antec has REALLY drank the cup o' fail on this one.

Not if you go by the numbers I'm seeing. This thing will sell.

As for Powmax, they couldn't even build a decent 300W unit let alone a 1200W. Not a valid comparison. Actually, I'm not sure they're even in business anymore.

[ratdude747]

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ok, but, the point is that without the powercache the antec is a failure. i was overstating but all antec seems to be these days is bling.

[weirdlookinguy]

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Well think about it this way, RD. We all know here that the powercache thing wasn't added out of necessity, but rather to attract the (mostly pretty ignorant) pc gamer/enthusiast crowd and to command a high price.

[PCBONEZ]

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Yes but OW says the Ripple goes to hell without the powercache thing.
That means the main PSU is crap.
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[Oklahoma Wolf]

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I don't know if I'd go as far as saying it goes to hell - it tends to cycle from 30-70mV or so at regular intervals. That's technically well inside ATX spec.

Not the behavior of a stable unit though... anybody buying this should use those PC cables it comes with and nothing else (my CP-1000 sample has pin compatible modular cables for example). The Power Cache caps are in my mind still necessary whether it was in spec before they added them or not. Those capacitors add the stability the unit needs to be a solid performer, and they just decided to spin it as a feature rather than something the unit needed to be perfectly stable.

At any rate, I'm not going to call it a success or a failure just yet. Still need to do the hot tests and the autopsy, and then go into the scoring with an open mind

[Toasty]

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>>it tends to cycle from 30-70mV or so at regular intervals<<

Every 3 seconds my CPU goes to sleep for 4 seconds.
I don't understand why.... ZZZZZzzzzzzzz

I'm curious to know WHY it cycles.

Wait. Maybe it takes that long to charge that cap up at the end of the wire...??

WHOOPS, WE"RE FULL!!! STOP!

Then you can throw it outside and shoot it.

[PCBONEZ]

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Where's the Fuhjyyu Cat when you need'em?

[Toasty]

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Florida for the winter.....

[370forlife]

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Can't wait to pull it apart and see what's in there that mandated moving the caps onto the cables.

Marketing.